SOPA

Oberon · 12-19-11, 11:42 AM

Seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

Let's hope that this does not pass.

soopaman2 · 12-19-11, 11:54 AM

So we can all get the same website filters as China does?

Nice...

We need a fascist corporate driven society, would do well, just ask Mussollini and his mistress.

I don't support thievery, but I do not support surrendering one of the few things in this country still free, and untouched by government, and political correctness.

Sure, zap the piracy sites...Oh that blogger is speaking bad about us, zap him too. Oh these people are organizing a lawful protest, kill the facebook and twitter accounts. Oh darn look! There goes all our liberties..

Once you give up a liberty you never get it back. Once you give up one, they try to take more..

Patriot act is never ever going away, and it only gets worse as we approach our destiny with outright corporate fascism.(this crap is worldwide mind you)

Keep privatizing public services, go ahead...It never gets cheaper. Someone gets richer in those deals, but too few to support the public good.

Keep it up... We are bringin it on ourselves by passively allowing it.

Dowly · 12-19-11, 11:59 AM

Yeh, almost every "big" internet video/review maker has chimed in on this, trying to make people aware of the ridiculous law.

I actually watched around 4-5 hours of the hearings and all that time, the most that was talked about was "we really should get someone here who knows this stuff, because we don't have any idea".

So yeah, GJ.

I'm at school atm (aye, busy day

), but when I get home I'll pop a video I found to be pretty spot on about this all.

krashkart · 01-19-12, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I actually watched around 4-5 hours of the hearings and all that time, the most that was talked about was "we really should get someone here who knows this stuff, because we don't have any idea".

This is what prevents war, keeps the economy running smoothly, creates jobs, funds education, et cetera, et cetera.

NeonSamurai · 01-19-12, 04:05 PM

Just an FYI but all 3 SOPA related threads have now been merged together.

soopaman2 · 01-19-12, 04:20 PM

To oppose SOPA and PIPA is being spun into advocacy for thievery by our beloved legislative branch.
Same way if you opposed the war in Afghanistan you were not patriotic, and hated the troops.

I read an article about it on MSNBC website, and there was a disclaimer at the bottom of the article. Why I read that sewer I do not know...

I can't quote it exactly but it read somewhat along the lines that MSNBC is a partnership between Microsoft and NBC (comcast who owns 51%..GE owns the other 49% if you care) does not agree with the protests while Microsoft does.

It turned my stomach, I cannot decipher why it did exactly.

I am done smashing the conservative press only, I lost all faith in all the press. Open game on anyone.

12-19-11, 11:59 AM

The government is also going out of its way to waste money on outright false propaganda about piracy that even the computer-illiterate wouldn't believe.

Seriously, what kinda nutjob conceived of that ad?

Task Force · 12-19-11, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder

The government is also going out of its way to waste money on outright false propaganda about piracy that even the computer-illiterate wouldn't believe.

Seriously, what kinda nutjob conceived of that ad?

Why does bad guy always have Russian accent? eh comrade?

So me Pirating a movie makes a child work in a sweatshop, where in china? thats no new news.

Hell, buying something from Wallmart is more likely to make a little kid work in a factory than pirating a movie.

mookiemookie · 12-19-11, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder

The government is also going out of its way to waste money on outright false propaganda about piracy that even the computer-illiterate wouldn't believe.

Seriously, what kinda nutjob conceived of that ad?

The alternative is to give your money to the large media companies who use their influence to try and get feces like SOPA rammed through Congress. That outcome is just as bad.

Jimbuna · 12-19-11, 01:10 PM

Another form of censorship some might say.

soopaman2 · 12-19-11, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Another form of censorship some might say.

My fear exactly, Mr. Buna.

It is as if the normal citizenry cannot be trusted to use good judgement.

Like video games, we all gotta use some rubbish added .exe (u play for instance) just to verify (online) that you can play the game. Ubisoft is not the only company guilty.

But if you look on (self deleted) or (self deleted) or even (self deleted), you can find unlocked versions less than 24 hours after the game is out.

Yet if my internet is taking a poop. I am just beat, cheaters play on though.
It don't pay to be honest, you pay more than the crooks in the end

Then again look at our worldwide government... It is kinda the same isn't it...No refund too, just like these games..

Herr-Berbunch · 12-19-11, 11:59 AM

MH · 12-19-11, 12:03 PM

Heard about it on the news here.
I cant believe such law can be passed in current form.

Dowly · 12-19-11, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Actually, this was the video I was about to post, couldn't check the video at school. Very well put as usual from TB.

Another thing that I remember from watching the hearings was that there was
a lot of concern how well the proper procedure would be followed when blocking sites. Especially because it is just cheaper and easier to just block a site
than it is to contact them and so on.

What if, at some point, they figure that "Hey, we don't need to do this manually!
Let's use a contect ID bot like Youtube does and have it block sites if more than X
cases of copyright infringement is found!"

Heck, in a very extreme case, Subsim could be blocked due to various mods
that offer, for example, copyrighted music.

It's just so effing stupid.

The best thing I remember from the hearings is when some a bit younger guy
(can't recall names) says: "Right, the thing is, DNS blocking isn't all that effective.
I have a statement here from someone who knows this stuff and he says it can
be circumvented." To which another guys simply says: "Oh yea? Well, I don't believe you."

Oberon · 12-19-11, 01:53 PM

It was your liking of the vid that made me watch it to begin with Dowly, so I guess the whole 'like this to spread the word' works

I have to shake my head in disbelief of some of the buzz lines of the new anti-piracy drive. "Pirate DVDs help fund terrorism!" It's like they went through the archives from the McCarthy era, and replaced "Communists" with "Terrorists"

12-19-11, 11:42 AM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	SOPA Seriously? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act Let's hope that this does not pass.

12-19-11, 11:54 AM	#2
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	So we can all get the same website filters as China does? Nice... We need a fascist corporate driven society, would do well, just ask Mussollini and his mistress. I don't support thievery, but I do not support surrendering one of the few things in this country still free, and untouched by government, and political correctness. Sure, zap the piracy sites...Oh that blogger is speaking bad about us, zap him too. Oh these people are organizing a lawful protest, kill the facebook and twitter accounts. Oh darn look! There goes all our liberties.. Once you give up a liberty you never get it back. Once you give up one, they try to take more.. Patriot act is never ever going away, and it only gets worse as we approach our destiny with outright corporate fascism.(this crap is worldwide mind you) Keep privatizing public services, go ahead...It never gets cheaper. Someone gets richer in those deals, but too few to support the public good. Keep it up... We are bringin it on ourselves by passively allowing it. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Just an FYI but all 3 SOPA related threads have now been merged together. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

01-19-12, 04:20 PM	#6
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	To oppose SOPA and PIPA is being spun into advocacy for thievery by our beloved legislative branch. Same way if you opposed the war in Afghanistan you were not patriotic, and hated the troops. I read an article about it on MSNBC website, and there was a disclaimer at the bottom of the article. Why I read that sewer I do not know... I can't quote it exactly but it read somewhat along the lines that MSNBC is a partnership between Microsoft and NBC (comcast who owns 51%..GE owns the other 49% if you care) does not agree with the protests while Microsoft does. It turned my stomach, I cannot decipher why it did exactly. I am done smashing the conservative press only, I lost all faith in all the press. Open game on anyone. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

12-19-11, 01:10 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Another form of censorship some might say. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-19-11, 11:59 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yeh, almost every "big" internet video/review maker has chimed in on this, trying to make people aware of the ridiculous law. I actually watched around 4-5 hours of the hearings and all that time, the most that was talked about was "we really should get someone here who knows this stuff, because we don't have any idea". So yeah, GJ. I'm at school atm (aye, busy day ), but when I get home I'll pop a video I found to be pretty spot on about this all.

12-19-11, 11:59 AM	#7
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The government is also going out of its way to waste money on outright false propaganda about piracy that even the computer-illiterate wouldn't believe. Seriously, what kinda nutjob conceived of that ad?

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	__________________

12-19-11, 12:03 PM	#13
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	Heard about it on the news here. I cant believe such law can be passed in current form.

12-19-11, 01:53 PM	#15
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It was your liking of the vid that made me watch it to begin with Dowly, so I guess the whole 'like this to spread the word' works I have to shake my head in disbelief of some of the buzz lines of the new anti-piracy drive. "Pirate DVDs help fund terrorism!" It's like they went through the archives from the McCarthy era, and replaced "Communists" with "Terrorists"