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Old 12-23-08, 11:56 PM   #91
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Well, taxes and increased prices are going to be necessary if we want to moderate the amount of CO2 emissions. If we raised fuel prices and required industries to hand over reports on emissions anually, then we could push for a more environment-friendly plan and help the planet.

Electric cars work just as well as gasoline-powered cars.

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Why did you cut out all the info about global warming in your quote? Just curious.

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Old 12-23-08, 11:58 PM   #92
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Well, taxes and increased prices are going to be necessary if we want to moderate the amount of CO2 emissions. If we raised fuel prices and required industries to hand over reports on emissions anually, then we could push for a more environment-friendly plan.

Electric cars work just as well as gasoline-powered cars.
Maybe you didn't read the above article either, nor the 1000 others bits of news that comes out on the subject that is regularly posted here as it arrives, but I have to ask the question - Why? Why regulate CO2 when all the top worlds scientists tell you its a hoax?

It is at a ratio of 1:27 with water vapor making of the 27 parts. This proves that CO2 is even immeasurable as having any effect whatsoever. But I guess if you tell people it does over and over, a certain percentage of the population are stupid enough to buy it.

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Old 12-24-08, 12:00 AM   #93
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Maybe you didn't read the above article either, nor the 1000 others bits of news that comes out on the subject that is regularly posted here as it arrives, but I have to ask the question - Why?
Why what?

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It is at a ratio of 1:27 with water vapor making of the 27 parts. This proves that CO2 is even immeasurable as having any effect whatsoever. But I guess if you tell people it does over and over, a certain percentage of the population are stupid enough to buy it.
I've been searching around on the net for 20 minutes now, I have no clue where you got the 1:27 ratio from.

The effect comes from the fact that CO2 and water vapor, when put together, create heat. So, the more CO2 you have with the same amount of water vapor, the higher the temperature and humidity.

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Old 12-24-08, 12:01 AM   #94
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Maybe you didn't read the above article either, nor the 1000 others bits of news that comes out on the subject that is regularly posted here as it arrives, but I have to ask the question - Why?
Why what?
See above. I figured I wasn't clear enough and re-wrote it.
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Old 12-24-08, 12:05 AM   #95
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Well, taxes and increased prices are going to be necessary if we want to moderate the amount of CO2 emissions. If we raised fuel prices and required industries to hand over reports on emissions anually, then we could push for a more environment-friendly plan and help the planet
Waste of time. Continued world population increases will make such efforts futile.
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Old 12-24-08, 12:14 AM   #96
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Why regulate CO2 when all the top worlds scientists tell you its a hoax?
Before we take this any further, I suppose you've got a source for that claim, that all the top world's scientists say global warming is a hoax.
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Old 12-24-08, 12:15 AM   #97
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Well, taxes and increased prices are going to be necessary if we want to moderate the amount of CO2 emissions. If we raised fuel prices and required industries to hand over reports on emissions anually, then we could push for a more environment-friendly plan and help the planet
Waste of time. Continued world population increases will make such efforts futile.
If done properly, then not necessarily.
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Old 12-24-08, 06:25 AM   #98
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Global warming is not some elaborate hoax conjured up by the scientists so they can obtain more money, but it's certainly not our fault alone as some claim.

Great, so all those tax scemes can go away then.
:rotfl: Al Gore would like to refund any and all monies to those that paid for his book or watched his movie. He really felt it was an inconvienent truth that you had to pay. You know, if Al Gore was so convinced of this to push his book and make a movie, why then not take a seat in government to lead the charge for change? I guess making millions on inuendo is much easier in the regular world.
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A quick guide to why global warming science has to be wrong:

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Examples of the hype:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472084,00.html
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Whats this 'we know' crap, you got a mouse in your pocket boy?

This is what happens when politicians and 'experts' get involved they make money.

Environmentally conscious travelers flying out of San Francisco International Airport will soon be able to assuage their guilt and minimize the impact of their air travel by buying certified carbon offsets at airport kiosks. ...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DTL&type=green

Just one big guilt trip that keeps people shelling out cash, changes nothing, life goes on and so does the planet. It's bigger than you think.
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I'm no scientist, but it's naive to think that polluting our air and water can be done without consequences.
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I'm no scientist, but it's naive to think that polluting our air and water can be done without consequences.
Very true. I believe that the magnitude of the consequences is what is in question.
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I'm no scientist, but it's naive to think that polluting our air and water can be done without consequences.
Try observing the data of big orange ball in the sky called the sun. Look at the data on solar flares and compare it with the data collected so far here on earth. You just might see a patten developing. When the activity in the sun flares up it gets warmer here, when it subsides it gets cooler. Imagine that.

Oh, can't collect a tax on that now can they so we blame YOU and get your money.
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Try observing the data of big orange ball in the sky called the sun. Look at the data on solar flares and compare it with the data collected so far here on earth. You just might see a patten developing. When the activity in the sun flares up it gets warmer here, when it subsides it gets cooler. Imagine that.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6290228.stm

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun...glob-warm.html
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