US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 697

Mr Quatro · 09-04-20, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Would a decent man ever say all the blatant lies and indecent offendings that Trump is documented in writing, tweeting and TV video to have said on so many opportunities, dozens and dozens and dozens more of opportunities, if not hundreds and hundreds (some newspapers run counting lists) ?

I don't think so.

But Trump is no decent man.

Does it really matter what we think Sky?

It boils down to two grown men trying to be the leader of the greatest country in the free world.

Biden has his problems too of being a Catholic that believes in abortion, plus an accused child pervert captured kissing and fondling women and children in public, plus being a party man that wants to raise taxes on the middle class and the rich to pay for free health care for all, plus open borders for all that wish to leave their poor unregulated countries, plus gun control that would remove semi-automatic rifles that are already in the hands of good law abiding citizens that believe we have a right to protect ourselves.

The democrats have no plan to stop the violence in our streets and have offered no proof of how to handle the slow down of our economy due to Covid-19.

Go ahead with your proxy vote on who should be the leader of our country

My real vote is for the Republican Party and it's chosen leader Donald Trump.

Jimbuna · 09-04-20, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I think it's false Jim due to President Trump meets every fallen solider that flys in from overseas ... would he call the men and women that die for the Commander in Chief losers?

I don't think so

I'd like to think so

Catfish · 09-04-20, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Pete

The wheels of Justice are slow. The wheels of injustice will grind you into the dirt in a blink of an eye.

This is so true. I am 'a bit' disappointed with the western governments' conduct of politics and general behaviour.
Snowden and Asange should be awarded a medal for uncovering state crime and state terrorism. The real traitors sit warm and dry, and try to kill the real police (read: whistleblowers).
Disgusting.

August · 09-04-20, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'd like to think so

Oh you do huh? So is the pravda that Trump just hates WW1 casualties only, seeing as he delivered a speech honoring WW2 veterans on that very same trip to France? I'm just curious what the party line is exactly. Its so hard to keep up with the latest bit of mudslinging.

vienna · 09-04-20, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I think it's false Jim due to President Trump meets every fallen solider that flys in from overseas ... would he call the men and women that die for the Commander in Chief losers?

I don't think so

Oh, I think so...

...because Trump absolutely does not meet "every fallen solider that flys in from overseas" and because he stopped doing so after the father of one of the fallen, a SEAL killed in Yemen in a raid ordered by Trump, refused to shake Trump's hand and further berated Trump for the failed mission that cost the SEAL his life:

Trump Stopped Going to Dover AFB To Receive Bodies After Getting Berated On First Visit --

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donal...b6250f655c1ca8

Slain SEAL’s dad wants answers: ‘Don’t hide behind my son’s death’ --

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...135064074.html

This has become Trump's SOP, claiming some grand gesture he didn't actually do on a scale grossly exaggerated or, more usually, absolutely false; Trump lies, he lies almost continually, he lies blatantly, he lies without remorse, and, when confronted about is lies, he lies about his lies...

I am more inclined to believe the reports about Trump's callousness towards the military and the troops who serve because Trump has displayed overt callousness on so many occasions towards so many the pattern of self-serving opportunistic exploitation of others miseries and grief for his own petty political self-aggrandizement seems closer to the truth than his claims and denials; the very fact so very, very few reputable members of the military are actively defending Trump on this issue speaks volumes about the distance between Trump's "The military loves me" and the actual hard truth...

Trump’s popularity slips in latest Military Times poll — and more troops say they’ll vote for Biden --

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...ote-for-biden/

...and that was four days ago, before the news broke about Trump's disrespect and disregard for our troops...

This article was somewhat prescient of the current situation:

Why Trump loves the US military – but it doesn't love him back --

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...als-west-point

The cold hard truth is Trump lies and is not at all above exploiting the fallen and veterans as well as active duty troops and officers to meet his own political and/or narcissistic ends; is it believable Trump did and said what he did regarding the fallen and vets?...

Oh, I think so...

<O>

August · 09-04-20, 08:09 PM

Biden claims today that "A black man invented the light bulb, not a white guy named Edison". Dem media engages in damage control.

Buddahaid · 09-04-20, 08:18 PM

Edison did not invent the light bulb, he made the first practical light bulb.

vienna · 09-04-20, 11:56 PM

It seems some other news entities have taken the extra effort to check the Atlantic article regarding Trump's unconscionable denigrating of fallen troops and vets; so far, at least three news entities, acting independently of each other, have checked the story with the sources in the article, and with other sources, and have found corroboration of the Atlantic article; among the news entities was one that so outraged Trump, he is demanding the immediate firing of the reporter who wrote and reported the story; of course it was the usual suspect: that well-known, leftist, MSM, socialist, Antifa, fake news media outlet -- Fox News...

Donald Trump demands Fox reporter Jennifer Griffin is fired after she confirmed he called US servicemen 'suckers' - as Melania backs him up and says 'This is not journalism, this is activism' --

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-losers.html

I posted, some time back, I was confident Trump would say or do something to torpedo his reelection; Trump does not disappoint...

<O>

vienna · 09-04-20, 11:58 PM

Duplicate post deleted...

<O>

Skybird · 09-05-20, 04:38 AM

Trump refuses to target Russia over the assassination attempt against Navalny.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54039710

One hand washes the other.

u crank · 09-05-20, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna

I posted, some time back, I was confident Trump would say or do something to torpedo his reelection; Trump does not disappoint...

Well in that case it would seem that both candidates are in a race to the bottom.

JU_88 · 09-05-20, 06:59 AM

Forget the candidates, this US election is (or should be) all about ideology & values. for once the out come of it will actually make quite big difference to what the US becomes this decade.
If you support property rights and meritocacy, yeah I probably wouldnt vote democrate as they are becoming increasingly supportive of radical equity & social justice.
Social Justice might sound like a good thing until you remember its basically also what was dealt out by Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot etc, turns out the only way to make a society truley equal is to persecute or kill the ones that aren't.

Skybird · 09-05-20, 07:26 AM

Relativising Trump's typical lowest-bottom-comments by claiming Biden's comments are as bad.

No. What Biden so far says and does in no way comes even close to the lows that Trump is affording constantly, day in, day out, several times per day apparently. Fro one lowest low to the next even deeper low, on and on and on. The two could not be more different. And Biden tries to come across over as empathic, wantign to unite. Trump boasts with his brutal egotism and psychopathic behaviour and insulting comments,a nd nwan ts to divide and incite hatred and provoke and provoke more and then more. And he is even proud of it, completely satisfied with his blatant brutality.

Its sickening that the huge damage done by the one constantly gets relativised with the in comparison minor flaws of the other. As if they would be equal, comparable in their flaws! They are not. Trump outclasses Biden in this regard. By a lightyear's lead. They just do not compare. And Trump already has done damage of an ammount and to so many US families, that Biden will never catch up with that terribloe record even if he would make it his only potlical goal. I say it again, and IK am not the only one claiming this, there have been so many others as well, and health experts and pandemic experts: Trumpo is wading in bllod of citizens he killed for his political ambitions and who died from the pandemic although they must not have died. There is a deaths core that weas inevitable, but the SS numbers exceed this unavoidable by a terrible margin now, and they now estimate the detah count may exceed 400 thousand by the end of the year. This becaue Trump promoted non-reaction to Corona and many of his poltlical allies followeed that, and becauue Trump agitated against even most elemental measurements against the virus' spread and by that he helped to spread it and encouraged people to spread it. The path he walks on to the hoped-for second term is paved with dead bodies of US citizens who still could live. Tens of thousands.

If I were a US citizen, I would never forgive this capital crime. Its mass murder, in plain English, committed due to especially base motives, and thus a particular gravity of the guilt is to be claimed and must be reflected in the judgement and punishment.

Compared to that, Biden sleeping in an interview or loosing his argument in a debate, is harmless, and Clinton trying to hide his shame by lying because he was caught with dropped pants is irrelevant. None of the two committed mass murder against their own population to boost their political careers.

August · 09-05-20, 07:34 AM

Skybird · 09-05-20, 07:37 AM

And some good news. Trump is further loosing support in the military.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...ote-for-biden/

09-04-20, 08:09 PM	#10446
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,233 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Biden claims today that "A black man invented the light bulb, not a white guy named Edison". Dem media engages in damage control. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

09-04-20, 08:18 PM	#10447
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,332 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Edison did not invent the light bulb, he made the first practical light bulb. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

09-04-20, 11:56 PM	#10448
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,723 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It seems some other news entities have taken the extra effort to check the Atlantic article regarding Trump's unconscionable denigrating of fallen troops and vets; so far, at least three news entities, acting independently of each other, have checked the story with the sources in the article, and with other sources, and have found corroboration of the Atlantic article; among the news entities was one that so outraged Trump, he is demanding the immediate firing of the reporter who wrote and reported the story; of course it was the usual suspect: that well-known, leftist, MSM, socialist, Antifa, fake news media outlet -- Fox News... Donald Trump demands Fox reporter Jennifer Griffin is fired after she confirmed he called US servicemen 'suckers' - as Melania backs him up and says 'This is not journalism, this is activism' -- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-losers.html I posted, some time back, I was confident Trump would say or do something to torpedo his reelection; Trump does not disappoint... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

09-04-20, 11:58 PM	#10449
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,723 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Duplicate post deleted... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

09-05-20, 04:38 AM	#10450
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,726 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Trump refuses to target Russia over the assassination attempt against Navalny. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54039710 One hand washes the other. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-05-20, 06:59 AM	#10452
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,814 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Forget the candidates, this US election is (or should be) all about ideology & values. for once the out come of it will actually make quite big difference to what the US becomes this decade. If you support property rights and meritocacy, yeah I probably wouldnt vote democrate as they are becoming increasingly supportive of radical equity & social justice. Social Justice might sound like a good thing until you remember its basically also what was dealt out by Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot etc, turns out the only way to make a society truley equal is to persecute or kill the ones that aren't. Last edited by JU_88; 09-05-20 at 07:09 AM.

09-05-20, 07:26 AM	#10453
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,726 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Relativising Trump's typical lowest-bottom-comments by claiming Biden's comments are as bad. No. What Biden so far says and does in no way comes even close to the lows that Trump is affording constantly, day in, day out, several times per day apparently. Fro one lowest low to the next even deeper low, on and on and on. The two could not be more different. And Biden tries to come across over as empathic, wantign to unite. Trump boasts with his brutal egotism and psychopathic behaviour and insulting comments,a nd nwan ts to divide and incite hatred and provoke and provoke more and then more. And he is even proud of it, completely satisfied with his blatant brutality. Its sickening that the huge damage done by the one constantly gets relativised with the in comparison minor flaws of the other. As if they would be equal, comparable in their flaws! They are not. Trump outclasses Biden in this regard. By a lightyear's lead. They just do not compare. And Trump already has done damage of an ammount and to so many US families, that Biden will never catch up with that terribloe record even if he would make it his only potlical goal. I say it again, and IK am not the only one claiming this, there have been so many others as well, and health experts and pandemic experts: Trumpo is wading in bllod of citizens he killed for his political ambitions and who died from the pandemic although they must not have died. There is a deaths core that weas inevitable, but the SS numbers exceed this unavoidable by a terrible margin now, and they now estimate the detah count may exceed 400 thousand by the end of the year. This becaue Trump promoted non-reaction to Corona and many of his poltlical allies followeed that, and becauue Trump agitated against even most elemental measurements against the virus' spread and by that he helped to spread it and encouraged people to spread it. The path he walks on to the hoped-for second term is paved with dead bodies of US citizens who still could live. Tens of thousands. If I were a US citizen, I would never forgive this capital crime. Its mass murder, in plain English, committed due to especially base motives, and thus a particular gravity of the guilt is to be claimed and must be reflected in the judgement and punishment. Compared to that, Biden sleeping in an interview or loosing his argument in a debate, is harmless, and Clinton trying to hide his shame by lying because he was caught with dropped pants is *irrelevant. None of the two committed mass murder against their own population to boost their political careers. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.*

09-05-20, 07:34 AM	#10454
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,233 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	__________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

09-05-20, 07:37 AM	#10455
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,726 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	And some good news. Trump is further loosing support in the military. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...ote-for-biden/ __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.