Confusion over Campaign [Merged] - Page 6

Letum · 01-23-10, 06:30 AM

It looks like the player will be able to cause Malta to surrender...

...dunno what to make of that.

Seeadler · 01-23-10, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Antar

These are my assumptions, I have not seen this presentation to the press in Germany. Maybe our german friends tell us something more about it.

The press event for the German gaming press is on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week in different cities, possibly after that we will read more about it online on their portals and in their magazines

urfisch · 01-23-10, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeadler

The press event for the German gaming press is on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week in different cities, possibly after that we will read more about it online on their portals and in their magazines

where you got this information from?

rascal101 · 01-23-10, 06:55 AM

ON a different post where I was asking for more detail abotu the campaign some one posted the following link:

http://static4.cdn.ubi.com/SH5dynami...9d1f2c89396c3c

Right Click save as.... you know the drill

Wish I had seen this previously - I think it really does show the devs are trying to do something different with this and they may just pull it off -

I have not lost any of my fears re a random runnning campaign, but this has taken some thought - My only remaining worry is the replay value of the game - if the new dynamic campaign 'options' are too limited then the surprise and deduction factor might be lost

But for my money I will be watching this with considerable interest

By the way there are a number of theatres of operation, the example featured covers the Mediteranean, however the copy clearly states there are other theatres of operation

Looks good and with the graphics and the new interior life, this could be a real new direction

Guess we will have to wait and see

Regards to all and best wishes to SubSim Crew, Ubisoft and the developer team

Rascal

Seeadler · 01-23-10, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by urfisch

where you got this information from?

http://pressextranet.ubisoft.com/EMEA/DE/default.aspx
top right -> press tour information

Adriatico · 01-23-10, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rascal101

I have not lost any of my fears re a random runnning campaign, but this has taken some thought - My only remaining worry is the replay value of the game - if the new dynamic campaign 'options' are too limited then the surprise and deduction factor might be lost

REPLAYABILITY made a legend of SH3... lasting for a years and still playable... just hope it is not traded for "historical frame"

JScones · 01-23-10, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

@ Mikhayl: Yes I read it, I'm just paranoid!

haven't seen or heard anything about the Atlantic yet!!

I'll be happy when some of the concerns on my list have been answered, don't you even wonder why none of the snapshots or videos show rough seas etc!

You just want to see me accused of spreading the rumour again, don't you Reece.

Reece · 01-23-10, 07:35 AM

You know! the Devs probably caused more harm than good feeding us small incomplete pieces of information,

they should have said nothing at all, and the videos/pictures should have covered all aspects of the sim or an explanation of why some areas have not been shown! would keep paranoid worry warts like me just speculating!

Takeda Shingen · 01-23-10, 08:18 AM

Merged four threads about the campaign into one. Let's try to keep the discussion all in one place.

The Management

Hartmann · 01-23-10, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Reece, come on man, what's with the scary rumor windmill? It's no wonder people cringe, there's valid complaints but this?

The .pdf says:
"...several campaigns focusing on different theaters of operation."

"...these campaigns will try to recreate the historical setting and main scenarios which took place from the Baltic Sea to the American East coast, reaching as far as Madagascar island"

"The campaigns will feature over 160 ports."

etc, etc

with different campaigns , if i´m playing the atlantic campaign , the other zones have units o there is only empty seas ?.

i´m afraid about of a cut in pieces u-boat simulator and limited freedom like in sh2. Also a story campaign can cause a huge dent in the replayablility

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Originally Posted by Letum

It looks like the player will be able to cause Malta to surrender...

...dunno what to make of that.

it could mean sunk some capital ships of a convoy like "ohio" tanker for example , or do enough damage to the convoys limiting allied supply.

but i think that malta not was the cause of a german defeat in the north of africa, it was thousand of kilometers away in the russian steppe, in a place called stalingrado, malta was important , but only one of the multiple factors of the defeat.

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Originally Posted by Reece

After reading the pdf file I get the impression that SH5 will be in the Mediterranean only, no Atlantic or North Sea, explains why no rough seas!!

can anyone confirm this?

well, until now there are only news about the medditerranean ,i think that it was a marginal scenario for u-boats compared with the atlantic, they said about other zones but no news until now.

perhaps they found this more espectacular for the new audience and marketing (more action and battleships)

I hope that Ubi give more info to the community about other scenarios of war if they want to sell this game

THE_MASK · 01-23-10, 03:18 PM

It looks to me as if you can play exactly the same as sh3 if you want . Just go to a port and be given some orders . Just ignore the overall war scenario if you want but what you sink influences shipping etc . Though i may be wrong .

PL_Andrev · 01-23-10, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rascal101

ON a different post where I was asking for more detail abotu the campaign some one posted the following link:

http://static4.cdn.ubi.com/SH5dynami...9d1f2c89396c3c

Right Click save as.... you know the drill

Huh... I cannot download this file... could somebody download it and send me or put it on other location? I download it as as damaged file with 2kB size...

Adriatico · 01-23-10, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece

After reading the pdf file I get the impression that SH5 will be in the Mediterranean only, no Atlantic or North Sea, explains why no rough seas!!

can anyone confirm this?

As a simulator fan... I wish I haven't seen that PDF... Simulator - means simulating a reality (including historical)

What do we get here?
Single U-boat sinking two Royal Navy task-forces from Gibralatar and Alexandria ? In a trasparent waters of Mediterrane ?
Changing the war outcome ? Conquer Malta???... Whats next? To fly Spitfires in the morning and enjoy fish reastaurants in the evening?

What is this? SH5:Command and Conquer ? Call of Duty:Battle of Atlantic ? SH5:Total War ?

I just try to imagine Doenitz face - if he could see this PDF ?

Don't want to be a party-braker... but can't we just have a better simulator of U-boats seraching for convoys at Atlantic?

It's now clear to me - why we don't need a realistic periscope... i.e. why do we need a satelite picture of situation.

***
Maybe it should be even more detailed... I can't see what is being served for dinner at HMS Warspite

Mikhayl · 01-23-10, 03:38 PM

Think positive. How many times did you sink an entire task force in SH3? Or an entire convoy?
I imagine that the action fan playing with 0% realism options will be able to sink a LOT of ships and might probably win the war. But if you play with 100% realism I doubt you can achieve such a thing and so you won't win the war, assuming the devs carefully balanced the system.

I'm with Sober on that one. I think that if you play with realistic settings, you will have a realistic influence on the war, which is close to nil except local effects like shipping or escorts redirection. But I may be wrong too, damn, March is so close yet so far

Navarre · 01-23-10, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Antar

Huh... I cannot download this file...

Looks like Ubisoft have taken the file from the news server, it was probably not intended for our eyes

01-23-10, 06:30 AM	#76
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	It looks like the player will be able to cause Malta to surrender... ...dunno what to make of that. __________________

01-23-10, 06:55 AM	#79
rascal101 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 769 Downloads: 200 Uploads: 0	Take a look at this for all those concerned about campaign ON a different post where I was asking for more detail abotu the campaign some one posted the following link: http://static4.cdn.ubi.com/SH5dynami...9d1f2c89396c3c Right Click save as.... you know the drill Wish I had seen this previously - I think it really does show the devs are trying to do something different with this and they may just pull it off - I have not lost any of my fears re a random runnning campaign, but this has taken some thought - My only remaining worry is the replay value of the game - if the new dynamic campaign 'options' are too limited then the surprise and deduction factor might be lost But for my money I will be watching this with considerable interest By the way there are a number of theatres of operation, the example featured covers the Mediteranean, however the copy clearly states there are other theatres of operation Looks good and with the graphics and the new interior life, this could be a real new direction Guess we will have to wait and see Regards to all and best wishes to SubSim Crew, Ubisoft and the developer team Rascal

01-23-10, 07:35 AM	#83
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,735 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	You know! the Devs probably caused more harm than good feeding us small incomplete pieces of information, they should have said nothing at all, and the videos/pictures should have covered all aspects of the sim or an explanation of why some areas have not been shown! would keep paranoid worry warts like me just speculating! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

01-23-10, 08:18 AM	#84
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Merged four threads about the campaign into one. Let's try to keep the discussion all in one place. The Management

01-23-10, 03:18 PM	#86
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	It looks to me as if you can play exactly the same as sh3 if you want . Just go to a port and be given some orders . Just ignore the overall war scenario if you want but what you sink influences shipping etc . Though i may be wrong .

01-23-10, 03:38 PM	#89
Mikhayl Captain Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 485 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Think positive. How many times did you sink an entire task force in SH3? Or an entire convoy? I imagine that the action fan playing with 0% realism options will be able to sink a LOT of ships and might probably win the war. But if you play with 100% realism I doubt you can achieve such a thing and so you won't win the war, assuming the devs carefully balanced the system. I'm with Sober on that one. I think that if you play with realistic settings, you will have a realistic influence on the war, which is close to nil except local effects like shipping or escorts redirection. But I may be wrong too, damn, March is so close yet so far