Muslim uproar - (Merged)

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by STEED

Statement from the Pope
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Listen up you Islamic dogs I was a member of the Hitler Youth and we took no crap from anyone and that includes you lot of hot heads just keep pushing me, and the boys and I will shove red hot pokers up your backsides.

Brits, watch your six.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Smaragdadler

I want to apologise for my copy&paste-sermon and the photo-link. I'm so sorrrrry that this was misinterpreted...

Is there a reason why you have not edited your post and removed the photo?

[mr chris]

Sound's just like the tory's Would sell there own mum to get back in power For one they have never had my vote and never will

[Smaragdadler]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Is there a reason why you have not edited your post and removed the photo?

Shure.

[STEED]

David Cameron is wet behind the ears and will never be voted in, why vote for a mirror image of Blair.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by STEED

David Cameron is wet behind the ears and will never be voted in, why vote for a mirror image of Blair.

Suggested reading from our side of the pond: Column One: The free world's Achilles heel. Columnist Caronine Glick has been one smart cookie for years!

[Gizzmoe]

FYI, I´ve removed the image that Smaragdadler posted after receiving some complaints.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

FYI, I´ve removed the image that Smaragdadler posted after receiving some complaints.

But you didn't replace it with my recommended substitute pic!

[STEED]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Suggested reading from our side of the pond: Column One: The free world's Achilles heel. Columnist Caronine Glick has been one smart cookie for years!

Interesting reading but the way things look Labour will be re-elected in the next general election as for there leader well all I can see the knives are out. Gordon Brown may not get the leadership.

[Smaragdadler]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

FYI, I´ve removed the image that Smaragdadler posted after receiving some complaints.

The corpus delicti is the link under the quoted text.

[TteFAboB]

Ratzinger did not apologized. He said he was sorry for being considered offensive to the sensibilities of Muslims. And taught them how to read a text by saying his quote is a historical quote and not his own thoughts.

Read Tarcisio Bertone's statement. Find the Islamic reciprocal to the Nostra Aetate. It is clear that Ratzinger and the Church are in favour of reciprocity and dialogue.

However, in Muhammad's land:

"Papa’ya suikast - Assassinating the pope" - #16 best-seller book in Turkey.

Turks are experienced Christian slayers: http://www.christianfreedom.org/imag...207-06-06.html; http://www.asianews.it/dos.php?l=en&dos=70&art=5303

Somali cleric calls for the assassination of the pope, and anybody else aswell: "Whoever offends our Prophet Mohammed should be killed on the spot by the nearest Muslim." He said at a Mosque. - http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...334739295.html

Somali Islamists are also experienced Christian slayers - http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

And they share common goals with the Al Qaeda: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...308581808.html

The ultimate common goal being: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/763217.html

None of this causes any uproar. No Muslim cleric has anything to say against these people, nobody is outraged. The "extremists" are always elsewhere, always obscure, under some dark rock, inside a dark cave nobody can find or point fingers at. An abstract entity that cannot be sued, arrested or executed. They only come to be when a terror attack happens, only then are they identifiable.

Where is the reciprocity? Where is the dialogue? Where is tolerance and peace? Where are the massive protests and critics now?

The age of horrorism: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/revie...868732,00.html - Part one; http://observer.guardian.co.uk/revie...868743,00.html - Part 2; http://observer.guardian.co.uk/revie...868746,00.html - Part 3.

[Skybird]

Nice text in your sig, TteFAboB! Should be printed on page one in every school book. Should be written on every church door and Western parliamentary door as well.

[mr chris]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Nice text in your sig, TteFAboB! Should be printed on page one in every school book. Should be written on every church door and Western parliamentary door as well.

Ah but the muslims living in the western world would be outraged!!!:rotfl:

[HMS Utmost]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Party time!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5347876.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5348436.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,,1873167,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...lam/index.html
http://www.welt.de/data/2006/09/15/1037631.html
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub28FC768942F34C5B8297CC6E16FFC8B4/Doc~E128628988B514DEC9EB56459FBE8A7BC~ATpl~Ecommon ~Scontent.html

So far, minor or no coverage in those US and French medias that I scan (certainly not all, and Herald Tribune link currently broken). However, Al Jazeera surprisingly is silent about it, too (they have a current headline of Egypt groups wanting to quit treaties with Israel, calling the end of peace treaties "real democracy" for the ME).

Threats from officials of the Turkish government. A parliamentarian resolution from Pakistan. Intimidation from the Egypt Muslim Brotherhood, and the even more "radical" workers party. Self-deception and angry balking from the central commitee of muslims in Germany. Angry comments by the OIC. Mass protests in Kashmir. Rallies along africa'S North, protests in the Me countries, demonstrations in Asian places as well. And more angry official comments from Quatar, India, Indonesia, Algeria...

Of course, it all has been peace and love and truth in Islam history, whereas christianity again is reminded that the crusades were unjustified aggression (against Isamic attack and invasion, which usually is not told), and still live until today, and Islam has been it'S poor, poor victim, and that there are so many lies being told about Islam today, and that Muslims demand this, and demand that, and apologies needed, ans serious concerns, and blablablabla and lots of gobbelgobbelgobbel.

This is the paragraph in original that spiked current emotions. It holds nothing nothing nothing anyone needs to apologize for, and the pope made it clear that he is quoting already existant words anyway.
d, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".

the complete speech in original German words can be found here:
http://www.faz.net/s/RubBF7CD2794CEC4B87B47C719A68C59339/Doc~E13506B0B9C304B269D3CF78C543B2E42~ATpl~Ecommon ~Scontent.html

The English translation here:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/be...nsburg_en.html

I hope no apology takes place (for what?) Let Islam drown in hysteria again for all world to see it's lying face and selfish, sly self-deception. Time to stop being obedient servants for the interests of Islam. I need a bucket nearby, just in case I can't hold it.

Maybe we should have a yearly championship for Muslim performances of self-deception and mass-hysteria, we could hold it at Monte Carlo and call this festivity a "Hysterial", and award the three highest scoring contributions some kind of an award to show them how much we care and really take them seriously. Little marcipane figures of Muhammad, or a golden box with a set of beer mats with ol' boy's face. [/quote]

Too right mate! I've been saying this all along! There whining whinging is pathetic and at worse totally at odds with what Pope Benedict said. I think a muslims countries control of its people needs addressing if they let this go on.

Whats worse is the liberal left media taking the rightious muslim side in the decrying Christian crusades while totally ignoring what the muslims were actually doing back in those days!
The savage invasions by the armies of Islam across the Middle east, Eurasia, the Balkans, The Mediterranean and up to the very gates of Vienna have never been forgotten in the affected countries and believe me if you went there and tried singing the muslim praises you would soon be put right!. From 700s - 1700s were oppressive times indeed for occupied countries.
One day I fear the world will be shown once again how cruel some people of the Crescent religion can be...

[TteFAboB]

@Skybird (and mr chris):

Agreed, but while I created this piece of text and thus the reason for the lack of quotes, the inspiration comes from Hanna Arendt's "Origins of Totalitarianism" - though the concept is also generally present in the works of Ortega Y Gasset.