Silentotto CTD hunt. - Page 5

gap · 10-09-13, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61

If I'm not mistaken OHII's file is based on my also

Okay, thanks Volodya. Fingers crossed for plj

Husksubsky · 10-09-13, 09:30 PM

I have sober based list, but with Realenvironment (and some small changes because of that)and not RSD yet.
Worked great with ui 7.4.2, but CTD on MARE NOSTRUM silentotto when I put ui 7.5.0. changing back...

Husksubsky · 10-09-13, 10:19 PM

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Accurate German Flags
sobers game loading tips V8 SH5
DBM Background Video
Real Environment - Revision_3
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
sobers multi color mod V5
sobers water splash anim SH5
sobers base sky mechanics V1
sobers better terrain v3 SH5
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes - MagDet range 3m (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_Real_Navigation
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches).7z
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraithpatch1
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible
Depth Charge Fix Reduced Explosion Range
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
Speech fixes and additions (german version)
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option Two
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1
Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2
RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1
Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
sobers Lights Cfg V5 SH5
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
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Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
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MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
sobers hud sounds V1 SH5
sobers Realistic contrast V6 SH5
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
Shadow Improvement ModLR
sobers bad weather deck gun V5 SH5
sobers map colors SH5 V1
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk

7.4.2 is back and it works fine. No CTD Mare Nostrum Silentotto. I tried with and without longer repairs on both. 7.5.0: CTD 7.4.2 :good to go.

Oh I forgot to tell I put zone.cfg from FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith into OH 2.2 mod (replaced)

plj · 10-10-13, 01:07 AM

So, yesterday I threw back most of the mods I had in my original list ... no CTD. I continued to plug in remaining mods, and right now this is my list:

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Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[D:\Games\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

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sobers multi color mod V5
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DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds
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sobers more trees SH5
Window Lights Redone V1
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Pascal-sh5-Crew-Uniforms 06.2012
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German U-Boat Hydrophone SFX
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Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 3_24.06.2013
Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
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silentmichal's interior mod 1.2.3
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One
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Soldati Fix
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Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch
Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2
OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui
RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1
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SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1
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MFCMCCDLite
Speech fixes and additions (english version)
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke
sobers Lights Cfg V5 SH5
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gap - Sonar Sound Collection v 1.0 for SH5 - Distorted
sobers no footstep sound mod
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AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
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TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0

Much to my own surprise, NO CTD's !! This means that the difference between a working and non working list is non existant. The ONLY difference in mods I started out with, is the SH5 Longer Repairs v1 which isnt in there anymore.

I'll test to make sure that this was the issue .. altho I think one of my tests already ruled it out .. I'll be back

Edit: Clueless now ... no CTD's anymore with original list ... it's as if the issue solved itself magically.

plj · 10-10-13, 03:29 AM

Tried to alter system date in an attempt to reproduce the CTD's we had .. no luck.

Could this in any way be cache related ? (someone please save me from going mad an gnawing away at flatcables while throwing transistors out the window...)

vdr1981 · 10-10-13, 04:59 AM

It's SH5...

It seems that the only thing you needed is one mod list/game reinstallation . If you remember , i was suggesting game reinstallation together with a bit shorter list at the beginning of this discussion but, no one wants to listen me... So, now you should cross your fingers and enjoy campaign...

plj · 10-10-13, 06:12 AM

I'd love to be able to believe that ... except that:

I did not reinstall the game. I unloaded my modlist, and slowly build it back up again over the last few days .. constantly getting CTD's in certain scenario's.

NOTHING changed ... at all ... no more CTD's. No different method of installing, no fresh mods, no clean save dir after first wipe, no adition, no update, no ommision.

It just vanished. As a computer engeneer, I refuse to accept that and I want to know what the f is going on with VC++ and SH5 that makes this happen.

I also thought about there just being too many mods. This can not be true either, as a mod is nothing more then an overwrite for an already existing file in most cases. A few actually add stuff, like TDW's, but they are stable as can be for as far as I have been able to tell with testing.

What I think COULD explain this, is JSGME. If JSGME gives special effects for some reason (messes up backup/restore proces cuz of date handling for instance) we ought to expect special effects with sh5.

Only people that have recently been messing with their list seemed to be affected .. others had no problems and where accused of robbing NASA for instance :p

I dont know of a way to test this. (I use dd-mm-yyyy on my system ... if it interprets mm-dd-yyyy, all sorts of crazy things can happen)

vdr1981 · 10-10-13, 06:16 AM

Heh, i don't know Plj...I'm confused same as you...

Husksubsky · 10-19-13, 11:55 AM

I finally made it work with RSD. What I did was go out and reenable snorkel in options before I started. Never tried before because I planned to do that in bunker.

.Found out that western approaches didn t work either until Snorkel was "fixed"

Husksubsky · 10-19-13, 11:58 AM

HTML Code:

Accurate German Flags
sobers game loading tips V8 SH5
DBM Background Video
Real Environment - Revision_3
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
sobers multi color mod V5
Water reflections intensity varied by available sunlight by TheDarkWraith
sobers water splash anim SH5
sobers see thru wake fix
sobers best ever fog  V22 SH5
sobers base sky mechanics V1
sobers better terrain v3 SH5
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes - MagDet range 3m (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_Real_Navigation
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches).7z
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraithpatch1
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible
Depth Charge Fix Reduced Explosion Range
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
Speech fixes and additions (german version)
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option Two
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.4 by vdr1981
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
Bullet_spark_test
SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1
Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2
RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1
Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
sobers Lights Cfg V5 SH5
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Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
Trevally TDC Help v2
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sobers hud sounds V1 SH5
sobers Realistic contrast V6 SH5
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AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
Shadow Improvement ModLR
sobers bad weather deck gun V5 SH5
sobers map colors SH5 V1
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk

Husksubsky · 10-22-13, 05:54 PM

I continue to hunt. What I found out is that when some Mods are installed for example RSD and the Realistic hydrophone 1_0 (that just came out) it crashes Mare Nostrum Silentotto. However in both cases I could start a New career go out on patrol then exit game. When I reentered game I could start the game M N silentotto and no CTD. Been proved severel times now. I tried to move TRevs Auto scripts to the end of JSGME , (A mod I always had), And No CTD Mare Nostrum. I m 80 percent sure(more 90percent) that when I put Realistic Hydrophone 1_0 from end of JSGME back to the place Sober put it I got CTD again. Same procedure:start new career start patrol exit game and I entered M N silentotto without CTD. I m to tired of this to retry moving that mod up and down. I t could been a coinsidence. Move realistic hydrophone 1_0 from where Sober have it to end of JSGMNE should not mean any difference at all since it only overwrites a file from new UI s and it was behind new ui s all the time

gap · 10-22-13, 06:00 PM

This sounds as para-computer science to me

I have seen relistic hydrophone, and it should only overwrite some of the New UI's files, i.e. its position relative to RSD shouldn't make any difference

plj · 10-22-13, 06:01 PM

If you read my own posts back in this topic, you'll notice me pinpointing the issue, and it then mysteriously disapearing never to be reproduced again.

I sortof gave up ... I can think of no reason for this other then JSGME doing unintended things ... but without being able to reproduce reliably, it's hard to diagnose

Edit: I might create a manual modded game, see how that goes...

Husksubsky · 10-22-13, 06:06 PM

Maybe I messed up when I seem to remember moving it gave M N CTD however I can add that when I removed the newly added Realistic Hydrophone I could enter M N silentotto no CTD again. it was after that I put it in the end just to give it another try. First CTD then I started new career . I tried like 4-5 times with CTD before I started new career and then the problem was fixed. Wasn t it you who suspected something with JSGME gap?
Anyway if I m the only person who experience it just like this then it s kinda worthless. I ts not Normal to try M N silentotto everytime something new is installed....oh hmm to avoid confusion I didn t mention that I got CTD with western approaches Silentotto the one time I tried that instead.
I can count ZERO ctds silentotto starts after started new career from beginning with the excact same JSGME list. I think I had like 50 CTD tries when I add up trying to change to New ui s 7_5, RSD and Realistic Hydrophone

Edit: Oh it was you who suspected JSGME Plj

plj · 10-22-13, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husksubsky

Maybe I messed up when I seem to remember moving it gave M N CTD however I can add that when I removed the newly added Realistic Hydrophone I could enter M N silentotto no CTD again. it was after that I put it in the end just to give it another try. First CTD then I started new career etc. I tryed like 4-5 times without luck before I strted new career and it fixed it every time. Wasn t it you who suspected something with JSGME gap?

Same here ... reliable results .. untill the error vanished and I got not more CTD's where I should get them. Only thing I did is disable and enable different mep profiles about 100 times.

10-09-13, 09:30 PM	#62
Husksubsky XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: oslo,Norway Posts: 424 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	I have sober based list, but with Realenvironment (and some small changes because of that)and not RSD yet. Worked great with ui 7.4.2, but CTD on MARE NOSTRUM silentotto when I put ui 7.5.0. changing back... Last edited by Husksubsky; 10-09-13 at 10:57 PM.

10-10-13, 04:59 AM	#66
vdr1981 Navy Seal Join Date: May 2010 Location: Србија Posts: 6,078 Downloads: 581 Uploads: 13	It's SH5... It seems that the only thing you needed is one mod list/game reinstallation . If you remember , i was suggesting game reinstallation together with a bit shorter list at the beginning of this discussion but, no one wants to listen me... So, now you should cross your fingers and enjoy campaign... __________________ Best regards... Vecko The Wolves of Steel v2.2.25_SH5 Expansion Pack_Full The Wolves of Steel v2.2.xx to v2.2.25 - Update PDF Install Instructions How to report an issue If You wish to support my work...

10-10-13, 06:16 AM	#68
vdr1981 Navy Seal Join Date: May 2010 Location: Србија Posts: 6,078 Downloads: 581 Uploads: 13	Heh, i don't know Plj...I'm confused same as you... __________________ Best regards... Vecko The Wolves of Steel v2.2.25_SH5 Expansion Pack_Full The Wolves of Steel v2.2.xx to v2.2.25 - Update PDF Install Instructions How to report an issue If You wish to support my work...

10-22-13, 06:00 PM	#72
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	This sounds as para-computer science to me I have seen relistic hydrophone, and it should only overwrite some of the New UI's files, i.e. its position relative to RSD shouldn't make any difference __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

10-22-13, 06:06 PM	#74
Husksubsky XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: oslo,Norway Posts: 424 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	Maybe I messed up when I seem to remember moving it gave M N CTD however I can add that when I removed the newly added Realistic Hydrophone I could enter M N silentotto no CTD again. it was after that I put it in the end just to give it another try. First CTD then I started new career . I tried like 4-5 times with CTD before I started new career and then the problem was fixed. Wasn t it you who suspected something with JSGME gap? Anyway if I m the only person who experience it just like this then it s kinda worthless. I ts not Normal to try M N silentotto everytime something new is installed....oh hmm to avoid confusion I didn t mention that I got CTD with western approaches Silentotto the one time I tried that instead. I can count ZERO ctds silentotto starts after started new career from beginning with the excact same JSGME list. I think I had like 50 CTD tries when I add up trying to change to New ui s 7_5, RSD and Realistic Hydrophone Edit: Oh it was you who suspected JSGME Plj Last edited by Husksubsky; 10-22-13 at 06:23 PM.

10-10-13, 03:29 AM	#65
plj Captain Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 542 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Tried to alter system date in an attempt to reproduce the CTD's we had .. no luck. Could this in any way be cache related ? (someone please save me from going mad an gnawing away at flatcables while throwing transistors out the window...)

10-10-13, 06:12 AM	#67
plj Captain Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 542 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	I'd love to be able to believe that ... except that: I did not reinstall the game. I unloaded my modlist, and slowly build it back up again over the last few days .. constantly getting CTD's in certain scenario's. NOTHING changed ... at all ... no more CTD's. No different method of installing, no fresh mods, no clean save dir after first wipe, no adition, no update, no ommision. It just vanished. As a computer engeneer, I refuse to accept that and I want to know what the f is going on with VC++ and SH5 that makes this happen. I also thought about there just being too many mods. This can not be true either, as a mod is nothing more then an overwrite for an already existing file in most cases. A few actually add stuff, like TDW's, but they are stable as can be for as far as I have been able to tell with testing. What I think COULD explain this, is JSGME. If JSGME gives special effects for some reason (messes up backup/restore proces cuz of date handling for instance) we ought to expect special effects with sh5. Only people that have recently been messing with their list seemed to be affected .. others had no problems and where accused of robbing NASA for instance :p I dont know of a way to test this. (I use dd-mm-yyyy on my system ... if it interprets mm-dd-yyyy, all sorts of crazy things can happen)

10-19-13, 11:55 AM	#69
Husksubsky XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: oslo,Norway Posts: 424 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	I finally made it work with RSD. What I did was go out and reenable snorkel in options before I started. Never tried before because I planned to do that in bunker. .Found out that western approaches didn t work either until Snorkel was "fixed"

10-22-13, 05:54 PM	#71
Husksubsky XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: oslo,Norway Posts: 424 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	I continue to hunt. What I found out is that when some Mods are installed for example RSD and the Realistic hydrophone 1_0 (that just came out) it crashes Mare Nostrum Silentotto. However in both cases I could start a New career go out on patrol then exit game. When I reentered game I could start the game M N silentotto and no CTD. Been proved severel times now. I tried to move TRevs Auto scripts to the end of JSGME , (A mod I always had), And No CTD Mare Nostrum. I m 80 percent sure(more 90percent) that when I put Realistic Hydrophone 1_0 from end of JSGME back to the place Sober put it I got CTD again. Same procedure:start new career start patrol exit game and I entered M N silentotto without CTD. I m to tired of this to retry moving that mod up and down. I t could been a coinsidence. Move realistic hydrophone 1_0 from where Sober have it to end of JSGMNE should not mean any difference at all since it only overwrites a file from new UI s and it was behind new ui s all the time

10-22-13, 06:01 PM	#73
plj Captain Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 542 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	If you read my own posts back in this topic, you'll notice me pinpointing the issue, and it then mysteriously disapearing never to be reproduced again. I sortof gave up ... I can think of no reason for this other then JSGME doing unintended things ... but without being able to reproduce reliably, it's hard to diagnose Edit: I might create a manual modded game, see how that goes...