WWII vet, 88, brutally beaten to death in Spokane, Wash.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

No, the Martin case was about race because a loud and powerful political group decided to make it about race.

But they will tell you otherwise.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

But they will tell you otherwise.

And there was me thinking it was to do with the ongoing long history of racial prejudice.
I think there are enough posts in this topic to bear that out and there is certainly no shortage of them in the topics about that particular case.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

And there was me thinking it was to do with the ongoing long history of racial prejudice.
I think there are enough posts in this topic to bear that out and there is certainly no shortage of them in the topics about that particular case.

True enough but that racial prejudice is a two edged sword. I've actually had someone tell me "I'm not prejudiced, I'm black." However, being an Irishman, I'm sure you've had enough experience with these things to know it will never stop until both sides of the coin agree to stop instead of getting even. And where do you draw the line between simply disliking someone who just happens to be of another race, and being labelled a bigot because you dislike them? Very fuzzy these days to be sure but I refuse to bear the stigma for past actions that have nothing to do with me except for my race.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

And there was me thinking it was to do with the ongoing long history of racial prejudice.
I think there are enough posts in this topic to bear that out and there is certainly no shortage of them in the topics about that particular case.

Yes, white Hispanics have a long history of prejudice.

[Daveb1]

This country has paid reporations for slavery since L Johnson Great society. It has taken many forms but basically forces distinctions between races. It has destroyed black families (and others) and after 50 years of it, I think it is turning me into a racist. I had nothing to do with slavery and I'm sick of paying. I'm sick of affirmative action, food stamps, failed education, welfare and the general liberal approach to social and economic problems.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Oh what the hell....

Scuse me while i get out a cane, a rocking chair, and bust out the ever classic, "when i was your age i walked uphill in the snow to get to school" metaphor.



In no particular order, when i was growing up...

Now you see, all of the things that have led to 'moral decay' in my generation, they were caused by the generation before us. So if we're going to blame entire generations, then it's the one before mine

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Now you see, all of the things that have led to 'moral decay' in my generation, they were caused by the generation before us. So if we're going to blame entire generations, then it's the one before mine

Here now what's that you young whippersnapper? Go to your room now young man!

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Daveb1

This country has paid reporations for slavery since L Johnson Great society. It has taken many forms but basically forces distinctions between races. It has destroyed black families (and others) and after 50 years of it, I think it is turning me into a racist. I had nothing to do with slavery and I'm sick of paying. I'm sick of affirmative action, food stamps, failed education, welfare and the general liberal approach to social and economic problems.

And here I thought this thread was aqbout an 88 year old man being beaten to death by 2 punks, not about political nonsense.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

True enough but that racial prejudice is a two edged sword. I've actually had someone tell me "I'm not prejudiced, I'm black." However, being an Irishman, I'm sure you've had enough experience with these things to know it will never stop until both sides of the coin agree to stop instead of getting even. And where do you draw the line between simply disliking someone who just happens to be of another race, and being labelled a bigot because you dislike them? Very fuzzy these days to be sure but I refuse to bear the stigma for past actions that have nothing to do with me except for my race.

All good points.
Yet what we have seen here is people dealing with it as either a one edged sword, or because it is a two edged sword it somehow makes their side of the sword OK.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes, white Hispanics have a long history of prejudice.

Would you like to examine history?
Then you can come back and try and defend that statement.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Would you like to examine history?
Then you can come back and try and defend that statement.

Let's try to defend "white" Hispanic instead.

[eddie]

Well, suspect number 2 has been arrested! That didn't take too long!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...rt-belton?lite

[Jimbuna]

Glenn turned himself in, but Adams-Kinard remained in hiding for four days until "dozens of tips" led cops to his hideout, Spokane police said.

Nice one

Let's try to defend "white" Hispanic instead.

That's easy, if you take over Spanish colonies you take their casta and fit it into your own colour system or you don't.
Since I don't and you have it's up to you to defend it

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

That's easy, if you take over Spanish colonies you take their casta and fit it into your own colour system or you don't.

Fit into a color system? I did not realize it color system. I was told it is a characteristic. A characteristic that the media decided to point out in this particular case to help facilitate their agenda and generate ratings. This was also bolstered by the white African American President.

Fit into a color system? I did not realize it color system.

Its a legacy issue, if you start off with things like "free white males" the system develops from there with its definitions.

I was told it is a characteristic.

Skin colour and decent is a characteristic?

A characteristic that the media decided to point out in this particular case to help facilitate their agenda and generate ratings.

I seem to recall quite a few posts stating that he was Hispanic not white, which would seem that pigmentation is an issue for some and their agenda.

This was also bolstered by the white African American President.

You were saying?
Would that be white, Caucasian African or white, non Caucasian African?