New York Gay Marriage: First Gay Couples Marry At Midnight

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Please note that rarely do these criminals have only one victim.
That is why the death penalty should apply to all these guys on these
sex offender lists. But that can be another thread.
Also there will be those guys who rape both sexes. They to should be
counted as those who rape little boys as well.

All the above is true, and I don't completely disagree on the death penalty part for child molesters, though sometimes I think that might be a bit to lenient.

But men who rape little girls don't necessarily like women, and men who rape little boys don't necessarily like men. And if you could establish a correlation in a percentage of cases it doesn't necessarily follow that it's true in all cases. You consider homosexuality to be an abomination, partly because the Bible says so and partly because the idea disgusts you. That said, it's no reason to think that all gays are going to attack children. We punish offenders, not people we think are likely to be offenders. And we punish people for crimes committed, not for real or imagined "sins".

Here's a hypothetical: Suppose you can prove you are right. What is your answer? Ban gay marriage, sure. But what about homosexuals themselves. What do you want to do with them?

[Alex]

Originally Posted by darius359au

we're in 2011 not the dark ages so discrimination and bigotry has no place in modern society!

Going from this point to saying every change is an improvement, is a thin line that a few people cross gleefully, with a level of self-exaltation bordering on absurdity.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Alex

Going from this point to saying every change is an improvement, is a thin line that a few people cross gleefully, with a level of self-exaltation bordering on absurdity.

So you think discrimination and bigotry do have a place in our society?

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

All the above is true, and I don't completely disagree on the death penalty part for child molesters, though sometimes I think that might be a bit to lenient.

But men who rape little girls don't necessarily like women, and men who rape little boys don't necessarily like men. And if you could establish a correlation in a percentage of cases it doesn't necessarily follow that it's true in all cases. You consider homosexuality to be an abomination, partly because the Bible says so and partly because the idea disgusts you. That said, it's no reason to think that all gays are going to attack children. We punish offenders, not people we think are likely to be offenders. And we punish people for crimes committed, not for real or imagined "sins".

Here's a hypothetical: Suppose you can prove you are right. What is your answer? Ban gay marriage, sure. But what about homosexuals themselves. What do you want to do with them?

That is why clearly defining the term 'homosexual' is essential. I personally
use the term to refer to adult males who engage in a sex/lewd act with
persons on the same sex. Children and adolescents (generally speaking) are already under to much pressure to experiment or may circum to seduction to firmly label them.
Whoever, it is the agenda that is the most sinister threat to Americans morality.

[krashkart]

I thought the term 'homosexual' was already clearly defined.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homosexual

[ZeeWolf]

I am currently working on North Carolina

Gathering:
1.) total male population (?)

2.) breaking down the registered sex offenders (16337 total)

3.) 200,000 total homosexual population (provided by vendor)

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by krashkart

I thought the term 'homosexual' was already clearly defined.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homosexual

Here is why terms are important. Can you imagine having some scum
like this Dr. Judith Reisman tell you child molesters are beneficial.

The link between homosexuality and pedophilia is rejected by many mainstream research groups, which have even begun to view pedophilia in value-neutral terms. The American Psychiatric Association removed pedophilia from its list of sexual perversions in 1994, while in 1999 the American Psychological Association published a report, "A Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples," which "claimed child sexual abuse could be harmless and beneficial," according to a 1999 WorldNetDaily column by noted researcher Dr. Judith Reisman.

And why it is hard work getting to the real facts on this issue, the top
is so rotten to the core.

ZeeWolf

[Alex]

@ Sailor Steve : Honestly ?
Yes.
If bigotry and discrimination can keep people away from 1. acting odd due to their recent recognition in the media 2. caring about problems that are not problems really, but no more than the latest modish fad - to be forgotten next week - about to make people argue again and again with no good result to be expected in the end as that cause has no essential purpose, I say I'm all for bigotry and discrimination.

I'm not saying I'm against gays and lesbians, I've got no problems with them - as long as they stay away from me. They have always existed, and always will. I'd just like them to stay as tactful as I do regarding the love one person wishes to bring to another. That's why I can't see where's the need to bring that kind of news in the front page of your media.

[Thomen]

Well, I wish whoever wants to get shackled.. err married good luck and all the best..

I just hope they also put provisions for (gay) divorce into the law, too.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But men who rape little girls don't necessarily like women, and men who rape little boys don't necessarily like men.

well and also the fact that you can' confuse a pedophile with a homosexual.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Here is why terms are important. Can you imagine having some scum
like this Dr. Judith Reisman tell you child molesters are beneficial.

The link between homosexuality and pedophilia is rejected by many mainstream research groups, which have even begun to view pedophilia in value-neutral terms. The American Psychiatric Association removed pedophilia from its list of sexual perversions in 1994, while in 1999 the American Psychological Association published a report, "A Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples," which "claimed child sexual abuse could be harmless and beneficial," according to a 1999 WorldNetDaily column by noted researcher Dr. Judith Reisman.

And why it is hard work getting to the real facts on this issue, the top
is so rotten to the core.

Not able to even check his own sources!
Condemning Reisman as scum, when she is actually on his side: priceless
Reisman makes a statement in the column against painting child abuse as harmless, as what she sees is done in the 1999 report. For the slow reader: check out what "according to" means.

Zeewolf is a non-amusing troll, as he is nothing special. He just shows the signs typical of conspiracy guys:

- being one of the chosen few who is enlightened to understand the conspiracy; secret wisdom ("we know what the mainstream media doesn't know")
- concentrating on single statements from individuals to denounce a whole group
- pseudo-scientific research": concentrating on faulty and unclear single aspects of topics, to show that the whole topic is false
- inability to provide scientific sources, inability to back up claims
- pattern thinking: (us vs. Marxists), everybody defending a group, is one of them
- diversity tactics: first we had gay marriage, now we are at child abuse
- inability to discussion, just giving statements to bait people, but not able/willing to have an exchange

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Zeewolf is a non-amusing troll, as he is nothing special. He just shows the signs typical of conspiracy guys:

- being one of the chosen few who is enlightened to understand the conspiracy; secret wisdom ("we know what the mainstream media doesn't know")
- concentrating on single statements from individuals to denounce a whole group
- pseudo-scientific research": concentrating on faulty and unclear single aspects of topics, to show that the whole topic is false
- inability to provide scientific sources, inability to back up claims
- pattern thinking: (us vs. Marxists), everybody defending a group, is one of them
- diversity tactics: first we had gay marriage, now we are at child abuse
- inability to discussion, just giving statements to bait people, but not able/willing to have an exchange

Nah, he just hasn't been laid in a loooong time. Spider webs all over his prostate. And the last time he went out only a blind guy came up to him and said: sunshine, how about you and me wake up the neighbours with the music of our sweet loving

Originally Posted by Morts

homosexuality is not a "deviant" behaviour, its completely normal.

It's queer.

Originally Posted by Morts

Guess you'd prefer approval by someone like Breivik ?
Then some "special" approval from him later

What does this post have to do with this thread's topic?

Are you taking Troll lessons from Tribesman?

You both play the same record, over and over again, regargless of topic.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Alex

@ Sailor Steve : Honestly ?
Yes.

Interesting.

That's why I can't see where's the need to bring that kind of news in the front page of your media.

It's front page news because some people keep trying to repress it. If it had been accepted all along there never would have been any news. It's the bigots and haters who force people to respond radically, then complain the loudest about "those people" wanting "special priveleges".