Amnesty... - Page 5

SteamWake · 04-28-10, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

For starters the topic started off with some conspiracy about a magic amnesty giving instant citizenship so the President could add millions of new votes to his party in the mid terms.

Errrr

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U.S. Democratic Party leaders said last week that an overhaul of immigration law could advance through Congress this year if Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid can pick up enough support to muscle it through the Senate first, according to April 22 remarks by Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi told reporters that she will find the votes for the measure in the House -- where Democrats have 254 of 435 seats -- if the Senate can clear it.

Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who has been working with Democrats on an immigration overhaul, said rushing legislation this year would be a mistake because it doesn’t have the votes yet to pass.

Hey look its magic !

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=ap2TZkCU0SSg

and heres some 'new voters !"

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A vote on the future of Puerto Rico has created a rift in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, with two of the most prominent Hispanic members of Congress lining up against a House bill while the Puerto Rico delegate backs the legislation.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36380.html

04-28-10, 09:39 AM

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U.S. Democratic Party leaders said last week that an overhaul of immigration law

Wow an overhaul of immigration law, just what people from both parties have been after for ages.
Thats amazing, it isn't your fictional magic instant voter plan though is it.

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Hey look its magic !

Magic???non citizens amazingly get a vote then?

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and heres some 'new voters !"

wow citizens of the United States that are residents of unincorporated territory of the United States...so what has that got to do with illegal immigrants?

Simple question for ya steamwake, see if it can penetrate all that tin foil.
If(and that is a very big if) federal immigration law gets overhauled before the election, and if the legislation makes it all the way through the ratification and enaction process before the election , and if that legislation is passed with an amnesty provision included how on earth can it possibly make instant citizens and voters when every amnesty program or proposed program has involved current illegal aliens starting a long process for applications aimed at possibly eventually gaining citizenship.

AVGWarhawk · 04-28-10, 09:49 AM

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Magic???non citizens amazingly get a vote then?

Yep...so do dead one's and sometime folks get to vote two or three times. Just ask ACORN...oh nevermind.

tater · 04-28-10, 10:09 AM

Democratic immigration overhauls... like giving illegals DLs here in NM?

Amnesty rewards criminal behavior, period. I'm against it regardless of what party or party members support it. Make illegals leave, then come back. I'm fine with putting those fluent in english to the front of the line, but they still need to GTFO, form a LINE and come in legally.

That's the definition of civilization, BTW, spontaneously forming lines.

I want no one to become a citizen who doesn't GTF in line like a decent, civilized person.

SteamWake · 04-28-10, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Wow an overhaul of immigration law, just what people from both parties have been after for ages.
Thats amazing, it isn't your fictional magic instant voter plan though is it.

Magic???non citizens amazingly get a vote then?

wow citizens of the United States that are residents of unincorporated territory of the United States...so what has that got to do with illegal immigrants?

Simple question for ya steamwake, see if it can penetrate all that tin foil.
If(and that is a very big if) federal immigration law gets overhauled before the election, and if the legislation makes it all the way through the ratification and enaction process before the election , and if that legislation is passed with an amnesty provision included how on earth can it possibly make instant citizens and voters when every amnesty program or proposed program has involved current illegal aliens starting a long process for applications aimed at possibly eventually gaining citizenship.

Sure just like they ratified and enacted 'process' with the health care bill.

They will do everything in their power to bring these 'votes' in.

04-28-10, 10:31 AM

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Sure just like they ratified and enacted 'process' with the health care bill.

What has that got to do with the price of cheese?

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They will do everything in their power to bring these 'votes' in.

Really ?
You have come up with a crackpot conspiracy theory and each time you post your "proof" you post things that are unrelated to your little theory, every time a pertinant question is asked about your seemingly crazy claims you post even more nonsense.

tater · 04-28-10, 10:37 AM

Regarding getting votes in Congress, that's how they do it. They will buy votes off with pork. That always happens. IMO, there should be a rule limiting bills by subject. The budget is clearly tricky, since pork is spending.

I'd rather have them have to vote on many smaller bills though, than, say, and immigration bill that also contains funds for a bridge in this district, support for something else in THAT district, etc. No easy way around it though.

As a reality check, the Washington Administration insisted that the US heavy frigates (Constitution, President, United States, etc) all be built in different districts, and from materials that came from even more districts. This was to insure broad support, lol.

SteamWake · 06-25-10, 09:49 AM

Time to reserect this mispelled thread again..

Yea... about those votes... who needs them?

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Originally Posted by Fox News

Source: Administration Weighs Bypassing Congress to Let Illegal Immigrants Stay

The Obama administration has been holding behind-the-scenes talks to determine whether the Department of Homeland Security can unilaterally grant legal status on a mass basis to illegal immigrants, a former Bush administration official who spoke with at least three people involved in those talks told FoxNews.com.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...al-immigrants/

Platapus · 06-25-10, 05:35 PM

So you got this from fox news who heard about it from an unnamed Bush administration official (no conflict of interest there), who heard it from "three guys" but no names.

Sounds like a credible story to me. Especially since this unnamed official talked with THREE unnamed guys. Now if this unnamed Bush official only talked to one unnamed guy, the story would not have any credibility.

Maybe I can be interviewed by Fox news?

I work with this guy who was talking to another guy whose mother swears she saw Elvis.....film at 11.

Tchocky · 06-25-10, 05:38 PM

I was the source, consider it a journalistic experiment.

Sailor Steve · 06-25-10, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

...reserect...mispelled...

Speaking of which...

SteamWake · 06-25-10, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

So you got this from fox news who heard about it from an unnamed Bush administration official (no conflict of interest there), who heard it from "three guys" but no names.

Sounds like a credible story to me. Especially since this unnamed official talked with THREE unnamed guys. Now if this unnamed Bush official only talked to one unnamed guy, the story would not have any credibility.

Maybe I can be interviewed by Fox news?

I work with this guy who was talking to another guy whose mother swears she saw Elvis.....film at 11.

You know what... I hope your right

06-25-10, 05:57 PM

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Yea... about those votes... who needs them?

Classic

SteamWake · 07-01-10, 10:37 AM

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Amid cries for tougher enforcement and more boots on the ground along the border, President Obama will try to seize the reins of the roiling national debate over immigration Thursday in a speech calling for a comprehensive legislative solution.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...tion-overhaul/

07-02-10, 02:44 AM

Comprehensive legislative solution????

USA's problem is not in lack of legislation but,
the government's refusal to enforce that legislation.

Does Obama seriousely believe the american people are so stupid?

04-28-10, 10:09 AM	#64
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Democratic immigration overhauls... like giving illegals DLs here in NM? Amnesty rewards criminal behavior, period. I'm against it regardless of what party or party members support it. Make illegals leave, then come back. I'm fine with putting those fluent in english to the front of the line, but they still need to GTFO, form a LINE and come in legally. That's the definition of civilization, BTW, spontaneously forming lines. I want no one to become a citizen who doesn't GTF in line like a decent, civilized person. Last edited by tater; 04-28-10 at 10:24 AM.

06-25-10, 05:35 PM	#69
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,377 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	So you got this from fox news who heard about it from an unnamed Bush administration official (no conflict of interest there), who heard it from "three guys" but no names. Sounds like a credible story to me. Especially since this unnamed official talked with THREE unnamed guys. Now if this unnamed Bush official only talked to one unnamed guy, the story would not have any credibility. Maybe I can be interviewed by Fox news? I work with this guy who was talking to another guy whose mother swears she saw Elvis.....film at 11. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

06-25-10, 05:38 PM	#70
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I was the source, consider it a journalistic experiment. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

04-28-10, 10:37 AM	#67
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Regarding getting votes in Congress, that's how they do it. They will buy votes off with pork. That always happens. IMO, there should be a rule limiting bills by subject. The budget is clearly tricky, since pork is spending. I'd rather have them have to vote on many smaller bills though, than, say, and immigration bill that also contains funds for a bridge in this district, support for something else in THAT district, etc. No easy way around it though. As a reality check, the Washington Administration insisted that the US heavy frigates (Constitution, President, United States, etc) all be built in different districts, and from materials that came from even more districts. This was to insure broad support, lol.

07-02-10, 02:44 AM	#75
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Comprehensive legislative solution???? USA's problem is not in lack of legislation but, the government's refusal to enforce that legislation. Does Obama seriousely believe the american people are so stupid?