"The Pacific"

[Egan]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I enjoyed episode 2 much more. The parts that I liked: The marines pillaging the army supplies during the air raid. The air battles and naval bombardment, and stepping up the fighting.

On a side note, I'm surprised how much swearing (F-word) there is. I'm curious if marines back then had such foul mouths? I only bring this up, because two of the vets from BoB said that was the biggest inaccuracy in BoB was all the swearing. He said they didn't swear that much (compared to now) I kinda think its just HBO and our times. But the racial language is a different story. You stoopid Mick, I hope you got your luger.

In a defence of his war memoirs following critisism by Clive James, Spike Milligan said that he had added quite a bit of dialogue to what really happened because otherwise there would be very little other than swearing. Mind you, he was in a battery of mostly working class boys from London. If I was an old vet I might not want my grand kids and great grandkids thinking I swore like a trooper....'Swear like a trooper' - I wonder where that came from?

Yeah, I think there was quite a lot. Good for them, too; a good burst of fiery Ango-Saxon just what the Doctor ordered on many, many occasions.

[Sailor Steve]

Well, when I was in we swore like...sailors! But never around ladies or children, or in any kind of polite society. You kept it separate. It was considered a badge of sailorhood to be able to string whole sentences of nothing but swear words.

I'm amazed at how casual it is these days.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Well, when I was in we swore like...sailors! But never around ladies or children, or in any kind of polite society. You kept it separate. It was considered a badge of sailorhood to be able to string whole sentences of nothing but swear words.

I'm amazed at how casual it is these days.

Could never imagine you swearing profusely Steve

Now us coppers

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by August

Hollywood just can't make a picture without a love interest.

Unless the rest of the episodes are literally spectacular The Pacific will not approach the excellence of Band of Brothers in my opinion.

Episode 3: This sums up the whole episode:


I think Dowly would approve.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Episode 3: This sums up the whole episode:


I think Dowly would approve.

[Jimbuna]

LMAO

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Episode 3: This sums up the whole episode:


I think Dowly would approve.

That pretty much sums it up!!!

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by tater

I'm liking it, even the episode in Australia, actually.

First thing I noticed at some point was a Marine with a Thompson, and I was thinking they'd not be all that accurate, then next episode, the Tommy gun was rare, and the rest had proper Marine SMGs (the Reising).

Other than the lack of Marine artillery (and the envelopment) Alligator Creek was OK, too.

I was also sad that they paid no attention to the Marine and Navy pilots that played no small role in saving the day at Guadalcanal. Minus those F4Fs, SBDs, and a smattering of other types like Army P-400s, the situation would have been VASTLY different. The IJN was there, but only at night due to fear of air attack.

Are you saying the Marines did not use the thompson submachine gun? pretty sure that is wrong, read several books including Eugene Sledge's with the Old Breed recently, which The Pacific is partially based on, he mentions carrying a Thompson many times.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Episode 3: This sums up the whole episode:


I think Dowly would approve.

haha nice one, love that movie! RIP Rodney

[Bubblehead1980]

Just figured I would throw this out there for some people.The Pacific is NOT supposed to be Band of Brothers.BOB was a great show but was about a different war(yes WW II but ETO and PTO were very different), branch of service and unit.Thus far the show has covered Guadalcanal, but not only the fighting but how they had to live on very little for a while on a hot, miserable south pacific island.Episode 3 was not my favorite but they showed something that was very common during the war, US Marines, Sailors, Soldiers etc meeting Aussie women and having affairs, relationships etc Some stayed after the war, some took their brides home, some just had their fun since the war was on.The Pacific is showing this side of the war via Leckie, same reason they show the drinking etc This is part of the story.I think they overdid the sex scenes a bit but it is hollywood.Still a great show so far and believe the next ones will be even better.Episode 4 is where Sledge comes in, he goes to boot camp.Some of the major battles are still to come and I anticipate they will be some great battle scenes, Guadalcanal battle scenes were great and must say, were more intense than BOB but again it was a different war.Cape Gloucester/New Britain, Peleliu, Iwo Jima and Okinawa are still to come and maybe some others the episode guide I read did not mention.

Bottom line, The Pacific is not BOB and is not supposed to do.Have to watch the show with an open mind.Hopefully, if they do another WW II type series, they will do US subs in PTO, would great, esp with the great memoirs out there.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

The Pacific is NOT supposed to be Band of Brothers.

It was billed as the sequel to BoB for years.

But I think the main problem with the series is not about differing locations or even over doing the love interest side plot. It's about the lack of character development and the disjointed story line making it difficult to get into it.

BoB had a flow to it. The viewer was taken along with the characters on a journey that had a beginning, a middle and an end.

So far in the Pacific we have main characters yet to leave home, those that are going home and those that are on leave waiting for the next battle. There is no rhythm to engage the viewer.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Are you saying the Marines did not use the thompson submachine gun? pretty sure that is wrong, read several books including Eugene Sledge's with the Old Breed recently, which The Pacific is partially based on, he mentions carrying a Thompson many times.

Until the Thompson submachine gun and M1 carbine became more plentiful, Marines were issued the M50 Reising. You can see John Basilone carrying one at the beginning of Part 2.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

Until the Thompson submachine gun and M1 carbine became more plentiful, Marines were issued the M50 Reising. You can see John Basilone carrying one at the beginning of Part 2.

My favorite American weapon of ww2: the m3 grease gun.

[August]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

My favorite American weapon of ww2: the m3 grease gun.

I carried one for awhile back in the late 1970's. It looked cool but it was heavy, uncomfortable to carry for long periods and difficult to control even for just a three round burst.

[nikimcbee]

After 3 episodes, my opinion is that the whole thing seemed rushed. No real time to develope the characters.