"The Pacific" - Page 4

Bubblehead1980 · 03-22-10, 04:05 AM

boot camp will be in around episode 3 or 4 I believe when Eugene Sledge enlists, read an episode guide somewhere.This show isnt band of brothers and I like that(even though I loved BOB), it's fresh and well done and the battle scenes so far are much more intense.Different war in the PTO than ETO.

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-22-10, 08:29 AM

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great show so far, the ending of episode 1 cracked me up(when they were singing happy birthday to sid phillips) lol Episode 2's battle scenes were very well done and very intense, A+ so far.

I thought that scene was more intense than anything in BoB (though nothing beats the first half hour of Saving Private Ryan)

Bubblehead1980 · 03-22-10, 03:42 PM

I agree the battle scenes were more intense than BOB and not taking anything from the ETO(great grandfather served there as officer in Army, went ashore on D-Day, still alive and turns 91 soon) but the PTO was a different type of war in every way, different enemy.The Japanese fought different than the Germans.Saving Private Ryan's battle scenes, esp the D-Day part was very intense.My grandfather said it was the most realistic depiction he has seen on film, loved BOB also and likes The Pacific so far.

I am thinking when they get to Peleliu, Iwo Jima and Okinawa, The Pacific battle scenes may even surpass Saving Private Ryan, will have to see.

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-22-10, 09:11 PM

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I agree the battle scenes were more intense than BOB and not taking anything from the ETO(great grandfather served there as officer in Army, went ashore on D-Day, still alive and turns 91 soon) but the PTO was a different type of war in every way, different enemy.The Japanese fought different than the Germans.Saving Private Ryan's battle scenes, esp the D-Day part was very intense.My grandfather said it was the most realistic depiction he has seen on film, loved BOB also and likes The Pacific so far.

I am thinking when they get to Peleliu, Iwo Jima and Okinawa, The Pacific battle scenes may even surpass Saving Private Ryan, will have to see.

For some weird reason, I always thought the PTO was more interesting than the ETO.

Strange thing I saw, today: a Chemistry.com commercial w/the actor who plays Basilone. Weird.

nikimcbee · 03-22-10, 09:22 PM

I enjoyed episode 2 much more. The parts that I liked: The marines pillaging the army supplies during the air raid

. The air battles and naval bombardment, and stepping up the fighting.

On a side note, I'm surprised how much swearing (F-word) there is. I'm curious if marines back then had such foul mouths? I only bring this up, because two of the vets from BoB said that was the biggest inaccuracy in BoB was all the swearing. He said they didn't swear that much (compared to now) I kinda think its just HBO and our times.

But the racial language is a different story

. You stoopid Mick, I hope you got your luger.

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-22-10, 09:30 PM

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I enjoyed episode 2 much more. The parts that I liked: The marines pillaging the army supplies during the air raid

. The air battles and naval bombardment, and stepping up the fighting.

On a side note, I'm surprised how much swearing (F-word) there is. I'm curious if marines back then had such foul mouths? I only bring this up, because two of the vets from BoB said that was the biggest inaccuracy in BoB was all the swearing. He said they didn't swear that much (compared to now) I kinda think its just HBO and our times.

But the racial language is a different story

. You stoopid Mick, I hope you got your luger.

I remember the scene where they broke open the crate and saw all the M1s and then whine about their obsolete weaponry. I think a Marine w/a Springfield would be far more effective on the battlefield than an Army grunt w/a Garand.

August · 03-22-10, 09:55 PM

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I remember the scene where they broke open the crate and saw all the M1s and then whine about their obsolete weaponry. I think a Marine w/a Springfield would be far more effective on the battlefield than an Army grunt w/a Garand.

Now what makes you think that?

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-22-10, 10:55 PM

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now what makes you think that?

practice practice practice!!!!!

August · 03-22-10, 11:24 PM

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practice practice practice!!!!!

Seriously though I wonder how useful they would actually have been in the hands of a Marine. I mean at the time they had no experience with the Garand at all. No training in its operation or maintenance or even any practice firing it. Nor did they have more than a very limited supply of the 8 round clips required to feed the Garand even if they could figure out how to make it work.

You saw that night battle. That was no place to be with an unfamiliar weapon!

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-23-10, 09:23 AM

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Seriously though I wonder how useful they would actually have been in the hands of a Marine. I mean at the time they had no experience with the Garand at all. No training in its operation or maintenance or even any practice firing it. Nor did they have more than a very limited supply of the 8 round clips required to feed the Garand even if they could figure out how to make it work.

You saw that night battle. That was no place to be with an unfamiliar weapon!

Well...I'd think in a night battle you'd require volume of fire over all else. You can't aim at something you can't see!!! But there is still the problem of a finite ammo supply (something Basilone had a hand in ameliorating).

I think the next time I'm at Arlington National Cemetery, I'm going to leave something at Basilone's grave. Flowers don't seem appropriate. Maybe a rock. A huge rock. Maybe a couple of them!!

Weiss Pinguin · 03-23-10, 10:13 AM

Yeah, I'm loving the series so far. The bit with Peaches and Old Faithful has to be my favorite part of the series yet.

Dunno about ep. 3 though, but I guess I'll see.

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-29-10, 01:32 AM

There was a lot of thrusting into foreign territory this past episode.

August · 03-29-10, 07:27 AM

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There was a lot of thrusting into foreign territory this past episode.

Hollywood just can't make a picture without a love interest.

Unless the rest of the episodes are literally spectacular The Pacific will not approach the excellence of Band of Brothers in my opinion.

Weiss Pinguin · 03-29-10, 09:38 AM

Well, BoB had a quick scene, but then again they didn't have a whole episode dedicated to it.

Can't wait to get on to the next one.

tater · 03-29-10, 10:12 AM

I'm liking it, even the episode in Australia, actually.

First thing I noticed at some point was a Marine with a Thompson, and I was thinking they'd not be all that accurate, then next episode, the Tommy gun was rare, and the rest had proper Marine SMGs (the Reising).

Other than the lack of Marine artillery (and the envelopment) Alligator Creek was OK, too.

I was also sad that they paid no attention to the Marine and Navy pilots that played no small role in saving the day at Guadalcanal. Minus those F4Fs, SBDs, and a smattering of other types like Army P-400s, the situation would have been VASTLY different. The IJN was there, but only at night due to fear of air attack.

03-22-10, 09:22 PM	#50
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I enjoyed episode 2 much more. The parts that I liked: The marines pillaging the army supplies during the air raid. The air battles and naval bombardment, and stepping up the fighting. On a side note, I'm surprised how much swearing (F-word) there is. I'm curious if marines back then had such foul mouths? I only bring this up, because two of the vets from BoB said that was the biggest inaccuracy in BoB was all the swearing. He said they didn't swear that much (compared to now) I kinda think its just HBO and our times. But the racial language is a different story. You stoopid Mick, I hope you got your luger. __________________

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Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I'm loving the series so far. The bit with Peaches and Old Faithful has to be my favorite part of the series yet. Dunno about ep. 3 though, but I guess I'll see. __________________

03-29-10, 01:32 AM	#57
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	There was a lot of thrusting into foreign territory this past episode. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

03-29-10, 09:38 AM	#59
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Well, BoB had a quick scene, but then again they didn't have a whole episode dedicated to it. Can't wait to get on to the next one. __________________

03-22-10, 04:05 AM	#46
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,207 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 44	boot camp will be in around episode 3 or 4 I believe when Eugene Sledge enlists, read an episode guide somewhere.This show isnt band of brothers and I like that(even though I loved BOB), it's fresh and well done and the battle scenes so far are much more intense.Different war in the PTO than ETO.

03-22-10, 03:42 PM	#48
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,207 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 44	I agree the battle scenes were more intense than BOB and not taking anything from the ETO(great grandfather served there as officer in Army, went ashore on D-Day, still alive and turns 91 soon) but the PTO was a different type of war in every way, different enemy.The Japanese fought different than the Germans.Saving Private Ryan's battle scenes, esp the D-Day part was very intense.My grandfather said it was the most realistic depiction he has seen on film, loved BOB also and likes The Pacific so far. I am thinking when they get to Peleliu, Iwo Jima and Okinawa, The Pacific battle scenes may even surpass Saving Private Ryan, will have to see.

03-29-10, 10:12 AM	#60
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I'm liking it, even the episode in Australia, actually. First thing I noticed at some point was a Marine with a Thompson, and I was thinking they'd not be all that accurate, then next episode, the Tommy gun was rare, and the rest had proper Marine SMGs (the Reising). Other than the lack of Marine artillery (and the envelopment) Alligator Creek was OK, too. I was also sad that they paid no attention to the Marine and Navy pilots that played no small role in saving the day at Guadalcanal. Minus those F4Fs, SBDs, and a smattering of other types like Army P-400s, the situation would have been VASTLY different. The IJN was there, but only at night due to fear of air attack.