Suggested Antipiracy Weapon For Ubi (merged) - Page 5

HundertzehnGustav · 01-30-10, 08:25 PM

sounds like you have been sold a promise... and they are not willing/able to keep it.

thanks for the warning...

JScones · 01-30-10, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Are those arguments based on something concrete?

Nup, at least nothing that I could find. You could just as well take any thread here and replace SH5 with <insert game name>.

Pretty much lots of

and oodles of

and

Task Force · 01-30-10, 08:34 PM

well, anouther thing wold be to stop chargeing 40 or 50 dollars for a game, people dont want to pay 30 to 50 bucks to buy something that could be a POS...

Elder-Pirate · 01-30-10, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Nup, at least nothing that I could find. You could just as well take any thread here and replace SH5 with <insert game name>.

Pretty much lots of

and oodles of

and

Yeah but the question is are you going to MOO or not?

THE_MASK · 01-30-10, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

well, anouther thing wold be to stop chargeing 40 or 50 dollars for a game, people dont want to pay 30 to 50 bucks to buy something that could be a POS...

$88 at ebgames here in aus .

Stealth Hunter · 01-30-10, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedFemur

just my 2 cents. Take it for what its worth.

I bought Rise of Flight and enjoyed it immensly (sp) until.......

After a few weeks of playing as the ROF community grew and more and more people bought and played it. I noticed that i was getting more and more "lost connection to master server" errors as the server struggled with all the conections.

well I guess my point is.... there is going to be a point where the server is not going to be able to handle all the connections.

As an anti-pirating scheme required internet connection works well and to my knowledge ROF has not been successfully copied.....but...... hundreds, if not thousands of people have decided not to buy it because of the internet connection requirement and the extremely long load times as the server checks the code at start up and in between each mission.

Odd. What kind of connection are you using? Because I've been playing it so far with no problems at all. Even on my wireless.

Task Force · 01-30-10, 08:49 PM

lol... 88$ games arnt worth almost 100$

NO game is.

subsimlee · 01-30-10, 09:45 PM

Just thought of something that would really get Ubi to rethink this DRM/OSP thing. Much has been said about showing displeasure with your wallet. We know this is hard to quantify; how's Ubi to know exactly how many COULD have bought the sim ( or any of the future games they plan to apply this scheme ) .
The one source that they can have good and clear numbers from is their stock value. If we can make noise in the right venues.......... venues that shareholders frequent, they're going to see that there are real risks to the value of the stocks they hold in Ubi and start bailing out before they lose their shirts.
That IMHO may just get Ubi's attention in the concrete manner that might put this horrible issue to rest for good!

TwistedFemur · 01-30-10, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Odd. What kind of connection are you using? Because I've been playing it so far with no problems at all. Even on my wireless.

maybe its because I am over 5000 miles from moscow. But I havnt played ROF in over a month. Ive completly lost interest in it because of the 2 reasons stated in my OP

Tok · 01-30-10, 11:40 PM

Well, where I live you do not depend on being online much......it's down most of the time. Well damm it anyway.....i'm not buying SH5 I guess.

Gatt · 01-31-10, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Interesting, but it is only a single example (it may be an exception, who knows?), nothing tells me it represents a global situation.

Look, my NDA allows me to say that I'm a RoF beta-tester and I can assure you the DRM can be a PITA. To be honest, not always but for some guys OFTEN. From time to time servers and/or your connection ARE down. It happens. I can tell you that since I've been an AcesHigh2 player for 6-7 years. When it happens ITS FRUSTRATING.

RoF (with the Dogfight dedicated servers) and AH2 are online simulations but SH5, AFAIK and in any case for me, is mainly an offline sim. This kind of DRM, for offliners IS an obvious problem. What will I do from my country house (no internet connection) if I want to play on my laptop? I'd curse UBI?

Players, through hundreds of posts made neoQB change his mind about it and they probably will drop it in the near future for offline playing.

You dont know how many people are waiting for this drop before buying RoF. Many of my friends are.

What about the old DVD in the player and a thick printed manual? What about Battlefront online activation? Or Steam? Players would prefer (and/or) accept these systems instead of the "always online" DRM.

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 07:44 AM

I remember settlers II, where you had to have the manual , to get some sympbols in it, to activate/verify if you were a legit user. That was fun, back in the day.

Brag · 01-31-10, 08:01 AM

This morning it only took me a few seconds to find anger against Ubi, not here, not about subsims, but other games.

Ubi is faced with a general customer revolt!

Try it yourself:

Type Ubisoft forum SH-5 on your browser.

Moo!

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 09:11 AM

should i go there?

i have seen the Ubi-zoo, and do not dare stepping back in again...
but curious i am! whats up?

Steeltrap · 01-31-10, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

should i go there?

i have seen the Ubi-zoo, and do not dare stepping back in again...
but curious i am! whats up?

I went and read a thread. Much the same as you'll see, with many posters saying "constant internet connection for single player makes no sense".

Oh, and Tim Renken (a.k.a. Trenken) is posting there about its merits, too.

01-30-10, 08:25 PM	#61
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	sounds like you have been sold a promise... and they are not willing/able to keep it. thanks for the warning... __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-30-10, 08:34 PM	#63
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	well, anouther thing wold be to stop chargeing 40 or 50 dollars for a game, people dont want to pay 30 to 50 bucks to buy something that could be a POS... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

01-30-10, 08:49 PM	#67
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	lol... 88$ games arnt worth almost 100$ NO game is. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

01-31-10, 07:44 AM	#72
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	I remember settlers II, where you had to have the manual , to get some sympbols in it, to activate/verify if you were a legit user. That was fun, back in the day. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 08:01 AM	#73
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	This morning it only took me a few seconds to find anger against Ubi, not here, not about subsims, but other games. Ubi is faced with a general customer revolt! Try it yourself: Type Ubisoft forum SH-5 on your browser. Moo! __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-30-10, 09:45 PM	#68
subsimlee Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 55 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Just thought of something that would really get Ubi to rethink this DRM/OSP thing. Much has been said about showing displeasure with your wallet. We know this is hard to quantify; how's Ubi to know exactly how many COULD have bought the sim ( or any of the future games they plan to apply this scheme ) . The one source that they can have good and clear numbers from is their stock value. If we can make noise in the right venues.......... venues that shareholders frequent, they're going to see that there are real risks to the value of the stocks they hold in Ubi and start bailing out before they lose their shirts. That IMHO may just get Ubi's attention in the concrete manner that might put this horrible issue to rest for good!

01-30-10, 11:40 PM	#70
Tok Sailor man Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 44 Downloads: 309 Uploads: 0	Well, where I live you do not depend on being online much......it's down most of the time. Well damm it anyway.....i'm not buying SH5 I guess.

01-31-10, 09:11 AM	#74
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	should i go there? i have seen the Ubi-zoo, and do not dare stepping back in again... but curious i am! whats up? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm