For SHIII veterans: How was the jump?

Agiel7 · 03-01-09, 02:58 AM

I've played GWX with Silent Hunter III, and after playing SHIV (stock version, I'll come around to TriggerMaru when I have the time), I've come to a few conclusions:

1: You come to appreciate what little you had on your dinky little Type VII, considering that you were working with torpedoes that actually worked.

2: Torpedoes aside, the game is gracious enough to assign shifts to my crew, rather than me having to constantly pause every 12 hours to make sure my machinists get enough rest.

3: Not really an observation, more like a question: "How the hell did I manage with only four fishes per salvo?

How'd it go with the rest of you?

Arclight · 03-01-09, 05:36 AM

Fleet-boats made me feel right at home. I don't know how I managed without A/C and an icecream maker. And once you learn the limitations of the Mark 14, you'll manage just fine.

GREY WOLF 3 · 03-01-09, 08:55 AM

Still trying to get my head around sh4
At the moment GWX GOLD3 with sh3 rules

Red Devil · 03-01-09, 09:33 AM

I always had problems with SH3 mods. I refused to use SH3 in its original format, I will not sink my 'own ships' on principle. So when the pacific mod became available, I jumped at the chance. Since then I have a new pc, quad core thingy, so I am running SH4 beautifully on RSRD mod (I think, I'm not sure which version I have).

I am addicted, and love it.

TDK1044 · 03-01-09, 09:43 AM

I played the Fleet Boats for a while. but now I run U Boats in the Atlantic in SH4. Operation Monsun with Trigger Maru. Try it, it will blow you away.

Platapus · 03-01-09, 10:06 AM

The biggest problem I had with switching was the TDC.

It just seemed so much straight forward in the SH3 (with mods). I found the physical arrangement of the TDC and the data entry locations to be awkward and slow compared to SH3.

It was a pretty humbling experience to go from SH3 where I was able to do manual targeting very quickly, even with multiple targets; and then do to SH4 where I could not hit a bull in the butt with a base fiddle. I am getting better at SH4 but not as good as I am with SH3.

Both games are fun though

Sailor Steve · 03-01-09, 04:05 PM

I'm still only toying around with it, as my computer runs it very badly. There are things I'd like to see in the future for SH4, but all told I'm really looking forward to getting the right setup. SH4 has so much to offer, what with the crew managing themselves. I also love both theaters in the war, and love subsims in general. Once I get going I don't think I'll have any complaints about SH4 at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agiel7

1: You come to appreciate what little you had on your dinky little Type VII, considering that you were working with torpedoes that actually worked.

Actually SH3's torpedoes work a little too well. The Germans had similar teething problems in real life.

Red Devil · 03-01-09, 04:15 PM

Sailor: on my previous pc, this would load but not even try and run, now (quad core 3gb ram) all smooth sailing.......

Loud_Silence · 03-01-09, 05:56 PM

My worst problem in SHIII was late in the war with airplanes. I couldn't reach 5 miles out St. Nazaire when formations of PBYs started to drop bomb rain over me. Sometimes they appeared right above the base!

Soundman · 03-01-09, 06:29 PM

Once SH4 came out, I never looked back. SH3 was good, but my biggest problem was maybe I'm just too patriotic and when I would put a U.S. boat under the sea and whoop and holler, I always felt a little guilty rooting for those Nazi f"$&~*s. Yes, I know it's only a game, but the whole time I was playing SH3, I was always wishing to play the American side....and now, we've got it!

I'll never go back.

jazzabilly · 03-02-09, 12:24 AM

SH4 is wonderful; and when modded (TMO or RFB, always RSRD) I think that it's far superior to SH3. The main thing that SH3 had going for it was the 'progressive difficulty' consistent with the challenge that the U-Boats were presented with later in the war.

I, too loved the switch to fighting for the USN instead of the NAZIs. Canadian though I may be, I would much rather sail under the Stars 'n Stripes than a swastika.

Pablo · 03-06-09, 08:03 AM

Hi!

I think the SH4 game engine has more potential than the SH3 game engine, but playing a U.S. submarine in the Pacific campaign is just not as interesting or challenging to me as playing a German U-boat in the Atlantic campaign, especially if you're trying to match the difficulty level in the game to the historical "story arc" of the war.

Pablo

TDK1044 · 03-06-09, 09:44 AM

To me, WWII submarine warfare is synonymous with the cat and mouse drama of the U Boats in the Atlantic. I don't wish to diminish in any way the role of the Fleet Boats in the Pacific, but when you are the Captain of a U boat in appalling weather conditions, and you are trying to set up for an attack on a convoy that you've been tracking for an hour or more, there's a sweaty reality and immersion about that that I never found inthe Fleet Boat game.

AVGWarhawk · 03-06-09, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,

What does this have to do with the price of eggs in China?

03-06-09, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,

What does this have to do with the price of eggs in China?

Easter Eggs

03-01-09, 02:58 AM	#1
Agiel7 Gunner Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 97 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	For SHIII veterans: How was the jump? I've played GWX with Silent Hunter III, and after playing SHIV (stock version, I'll come around to TriggerMaru when I have the time), I've come to a few conclusions: 1: You come to appreciate what little you had on your dinky little Type VII, considering that you were working with torpedoes that actually worked. 2: Torpedoes aside, the game is gracious enough to assign shifts to my crew, rather than me having to constantly pause every 12 hours to make sure my machinists get enough rest. 3: Not really an observation, more like a question: "How the hell did I manage with only four fishes per salvo? How'd it go with the rest of you?

03-01-09, 05:36 AM	#2
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Fleet-boats made me feel right at home. I don't know how I managed without A/C and an icecream maker. And once you learn the limitations of the Mark 14, you'll manage just fine. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-01-09, 09:33 AM	#4
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	I always had problems with SH3 mods. I refused to use SH3 in its original format, I will not sink my 'own ships' on principle. So when the pacific mod became available, I jumped at the chance. Since then I have a new pc, quad core thingy, so I am running SH4 beautifully on RSRD mod (I think, I'm not sure which version I have). I am addicted, and love it. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

03-01-09, 10:06 AM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The biggest problem I had with switching was the TDC. It just seemed so much straight forward in the SH3 (with mods). I found the physical arrangement of the TDC and the data entry locations to be awkward and slow compared to SH3. It was a pretty humbling experience to go from SH3 where I was able to do manual targeting very quickly, even with multiple targets; and then do to SH4 where I could not hit a bull in the butt with a base fiddle. I am getting better at SH4 but not as good as I am with SH3. Both games are fun though __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-01-09, 04:15 PM	#8
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Sailor: on my previous pc, this would load but not even try and run, now (quad core 3gb ram) all smooth sailing....... __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

03-01-09, 08:55 AM	#3
GREY WOLF 3 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Down deep avoiding drm attacks Posts: 284 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Still trying to get my head around sh4 At the moment GWX GOLD3 with sh3 rules

03-01-09, 09:43 AM	#5
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I played the Fleet Boats for a while. but now I run U Boats in the Atlantic in SH4. Operation Monsun with Trigger Maru. Try it, it will blow you away.

03-01-09, 05:56 PM	#9
Loud_Silence Planesman Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 193 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My worst problem in SHIII was late in the war with airplanes. I couldn't reach 5 miles out St. Nazaire when formations of PBYs started to drop bomb rain over me. Sometimes they appeared right above the base!

03-01-09, 06:29 PM	#10
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Once SH4 came out, I never looked back. SH3 was good, but my biggest problem was maybe I'm just too patriotic and when I would put a U.S. boat under the sea and whoop and holler, I always felt a little guilty rooting for those Nazi f"$&~*s. Yes, I know it's only a game, but the whole time I was playing SH3, I was always wishing to play the American side....and now, we've got it! I'll never go back. __________________ RVAH-9 RA-5C Vigilante at NAS Sanford, Fl 1966 The coolest plane few have heard of!

03-02-09, 12:24 AM	#11
jazzabilly Planesman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 186 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	SH4 is wonderful; and when modded (TMO or RFB, always RSRD) I think that it's far superior to SH3. The main thing that SH3 had going for it was the 'progressive difficulty' consistent with the challenge that the U-Boats were presented with later in the war. I, too loved the switch to fighting for the USN instead of the NAZIs. Canadian though I may be, I would much rather sail under the Stars 'n Stripes than a swastika. __________________ If it's a fair fight, then you didn't plan it properly. ====================================

03-06-09, 08:03 AM	#12
Pablo Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 641 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Hi! I think the SH4 game engine has more potential than the SH3 game engine, but playing a U.S. submarine in the Pacific campaign is just not as interesting or challenging to me as playing a German U-boat in the Atlantic campaign, especially if you're trying to match the difficulty level in the game to the historical "story arc" of the war. Pablo __________________ "...far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt, speech before the Hamilton Club, Chicago, April 10, 1899 Last edited by Pablo; 03-06-09 at 08:34 PM.

03-06-09, 09:44 AM	#13
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	To me, WWII submarine warfare is synonymous with the cat and mouse drama of the U Boats in the Atlantic. I don't wish to diminish in any way the role of the Fleet Boats in the Pacific, but when you are the Captain of a U boat in appalling weather conditions, and you are trying to set up for an attack on a convoy that you've been tracking for an hour or more, there's a sweaty reality and immersion about that that I never found inthe Fleet Boat game.