Next President of the United States - Page 5

Onkel Neal · 09-04-08, 10:07 PM

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Yeah, the "Brittany Spears" of politics... SHE SAID NOTHING... folks.

I disagree. Granted, she is the VP candidate and as such will not be setting policy, but she made it very clear she supports an aggresive stance toward terrorism, strong national defence, lower taxes, smaller government, and less spending. That's what I support.

I disagree.

You disagree that I support those princicples? What?

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The bigger question is can she and McCain accomplish these goals that they have set? All these politicians make these grand claims, yet they hardly ever accomplish them (and Obama is no exception; yet after viewing his voting record in Congress, he has TRIED). Given the stances McCain has taken in the past and present, no. I could not vote for the man. I fear that the failed tactics of Bush would continue under the McCain/Palin administration, and the country would only run further into the ground.

However, I don't think he'll win once the chips are down. He's selected a woman for a VP who has no experience whatsoever in the workings of government, beyond being a governor at the most (and he just met her about two weeks before he selected her as his running mate), her daughter is pregnant at 17, and a lot of McCain's supporters (about 38 million to be exact) have drawn the conclusion that he just selected her to have Clinton's supporters rally around him (which did not work).

However you look at it, something's up. Why would he select Palin? There are/were better choices that he was offered, yet he chose her...:hmm:

I sense a plot involving offshore drilling.

With that said, the election is just two months away. Unless McCain can pull some amazing stunt, it's really not looking too good for him right now.

One last thing, though... how aggressive would he be with terrorism?

Yeah, but her level of experience is still greater than Obama's, and he's the one the Democrats have selected for President. Palin is the VP candidate.

DeepIron · 09-04-08, 10:33 PM

Who would you want in charge of the most powerful nation on the planet if either Obama or McCain were killed or incapacitated?

I'll choose Biden...

Onkel Neal · 09-04-08, 10:41 PM

I'll choose Palin...

DeepIron · 09-04-08, 11:16 PM

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I'll choose Palin...

Ain't democracy wonderful?!

Onkel Neal · 09-04-08, 11:31 PM

Yeah. Entertaining, too

Stealth Hunter · 09-05-08, 12:28 AM

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You disagree that I support those princicples? What?

I disagree with your choice for who should carry out solving the problems; nothing more.

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Yeah, but her level of experience is still greater than Obama's, and he's the one the Democrats have selected for President. Palin is the VP candidate.

How so? Obama is the Senator here; Palin was a governor and a mayor. IMO, Obama would be more qualified for that very simple reason. I have my doubts about Palin's ability to run the country should anything happen to McCain. She hasn't been exposed enough to Congressional politics.

With that said, Joe Biden and Obama seem to get along just fine, and Biden has plenty of experience under his belt. I think they'll make a good duo in the White House.

On a less serious side, it's good to see we're finally getting some clean debating.

Platapus · 09-05-08, 04:36 AM

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Maybe you missed O refusing to do town halls with McCain.

Personally I agree with Senator Obama refusing to have town hall meetings with Senator McCain before either of them were nominated.

I would rather there not be any town hall meetings in fact. They demonstrate nothing at all. A formal debate where the candidates do not have the questions before hand (and everyone shows up at the same time) will be much better than any salted audience town hall where loaded questions can be asked.

Town hall meetings are great for one candidate to showcase their position. But it can not take the place of a formal political platform debate.

Platapus · 09-05-08, 04:40 AM

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Alaska ranks number one in absolute federal funding and number one in relative federal funding per capita. .

References, please? <skulks off to attempt to verify claims>

http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?...2008porkpercap

I was mistaken It is Texas with the highest absolute number of earmarks, it is Alaska with the number one per capita. My apologies.

Btw Senator McCain makes a big deal about how he does not lobby for earmarks for the State of Arizona. He can make that claim because he has the other Arizona state representatives do it for him.

http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?...k2008_database

STEED · 09-05-08, 05:39 AM

Sarah Palin is the new Wonder Women.

TDK1044 · 09-05-08, 05:51 AM

The choice is between a man who is half black and a man who is half dead. We'll make history either way!

Sarah Palin is impressive.

Digital_Trucker · 09-05-08, 07:04 AM

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Btw Senator McCain makes a big deal about how he does not lobby for earmarks for the State of Arizona. He can make that claim because he has the other Arizona state representatives do it for him.

http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?...k2008_database

Yet Arizona is still the lowest per capita in earmarks. I don't see anything on that site that shows that McCain coerced the other state representatives into doing it either.

Platapus · 09-05-08, 09:47 AM

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I don't see anything on that site that shows that McCain coerced the other state representatives into doing it either.

Did anyone say he coerced? I think the other Arizona state representatives were most eager to snuffle in the federal trough.

Digital_Trucker · 09-05-08, 10:21 AM

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I don't see anything on that site that shows that McCain coerced the other state representatives into doing it either.

Did anyone say he coerced? I think the other Arizona state representatives were most eager to snuffle in the federal trough.

Perhaps I misunderstood the following?:hmm:

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He can make that claim because he has the other Arizona state representatives do it for him.

Sailor Steve · 09-05-08, 01:32 PM

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Yeah, but her level of experience is still greater than Obama's, and he's the one the Democrats have selected for President. Palin is the VP candidate.

How so? Obama is the Senator here; Palin was a governor and a mayor. IMO, Obama would be more qualified for that very simple reason. I have my doubts about Palin's ability to run the country should anything happen to McCain. She hasn't been exposed enough to Congressional politics.

Obama is a Senator. That gives him an inside knowledge of how it works, which can be good or bad but does give him experience making laws and glad-handing opponents. Palin is a Governor, which gives her experience at actually running a large group of people and political machinery. Arguably she is better prepared to be president than any of them.

I'm still as up-in-the-air as I was six months ago.

geetrue · 09-05-08, 01:44 PM

All analytical people seem to have the same problem ...

They are either right or wrong

John McCain is raising up a rare breed of woman to take over when he retires in 2012.

After four years of training under his leadership she will make a fine president.

You just wait and see ... I've heard too many women say it's time someone represents them in the white house, besides the first lady.

Clinton will gloat and say, "I told you so" and run again in 2012.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Yeah. Entertaining, too __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

09-05-08, 05:39 AM	#69
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Sarah Palin is the new Wonder Women. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-05-08, 01:44 PM	#75
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	All analytical people seem to have the same problem ... They are either right or wrong John McCain is raising up a rare breed of woman to take over when he retires in 2012. After four years of training under his leadership she will make a fine president. You just wait and see ... I've heard too many women say it's time someone represents them in the white house, besides the first lady. Clinton will gloat and say, "I told you so" and run again in 2012. __________________

09-04-08, 10:41 PM	#63
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I'll choose Palin...

09-05-08, 05:51 AM	#70
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	The choice is between a man who is half black and a man who is half dead. We'll make history either way! Sarah Palin is impressive.