Silent Hunter 4 Preview by Aces of the Deep and MarineSims! - Page 5

Loaf · 12-05-06, 03:41 PM

I notice that this video clip adheres to the long-standing tradition of the Silent Hunter franchise - any game trailer MUST devote at least 50% of its time to shots of battleships.

WilhelmSchulz. · 12-05-06, 03:42 PM

They realy went overbopard with the explosions.

Loaf · 12-05-06, 03:45 PM

[quote=WilhelmSchulz.]The only thing is that the conning tower is empty. And thats the busyest place submerged!

As I recall from visiting the USS Drum, the conning tower of a Gato sub is REALLY cramped - claustrophobic, in fact. I doubt that there could possibly have been more than one or two people in there with the skipper... I think a lot of the work on the attack may have taken place down in the control room?

Anybody know how the conning tower was actually manned in an attack?

Subnuts · 12-05-06, 04:24 PM

[quote=Loaf][quote=WilhelmSchulz.

Anybody know how the conning tower was actually manned in an attack?[/quote]

Well, at the very least you'd have two crewmembers manning the radar, the one at the TDC, and one at the plotting table. Plus you'd have the skipper, the helmsman, and XO in there too. While running submerged you'd also have someone at the hydrophone station.

This site gives a good overview:

http://www.maritime.org/tour/tctvr.htm

Loaf · 12-05-06, 04:41 PM

Funny - I thought I remembered the TDC and the helm in the control room... I must not be remembering correctly. My visit to the USS Drum was a while ago!

dean_acheson · 12-05-06, 05:29 PM

I am soooo ready for this game.

It seems like SH3 is kinda dark, from photos that I have seen from the U-505, and some of my U-Boat books.

Dark and Dirty.

I can't help but think, that while the boats might have been stank as all git-out, they would have been decently clean and bright in the control sections.

http://www.uboat.net/gallery/index.h...995A&img=9

I for one, think that the SH4 boat looks a bit dingy.....

sergbuto · 12-05-06, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Things I noticed:

They have the helmsman modelled as well as the two planesmen.

Dynamic wake; ripples streaming off the sides as well as the foam.

Guages get bigger when you place the cursor over them.

Periscopes going up when you click on them.

No crewmembers in the conning tower.

I'm sure there are many things I didn't notice, but then I have a limited time online and have to rush through long videos, plus no sound.

I am more worried about an access to various controls, buttons, handles, knobs, switches, TDC and gauges in 3D. The huge/enlarged gauges, pull-outs and other 2D stuff are not much of interest to me. I hope SH4 will not be a step back in this (3D-access) sense as compared with SH3. It is difficult judge about this aspect from the video.

Safe-Keeper · 12-05-06, 08:58 PM

I'm looking forward to the third developer diary. Will be nice to see

The answer to our Swedish friend's question above.
What the damage effects will look like.
Whether or not there are more crewman animations (ducking, repairing, looking in terror at a fire, etc.).
Whether or not there'll be situations such as fires, thick smoke, battery acid leaks, and so on.
Whether or not you'll actually see crewmen run through the compartment when ordered to go somewhere.

LukeFF · 12-06-06, 12:56 AM

Looking great!

Gino · 12-06-06, 08:20 AM

Are we the only ones that saw that the Torpedoes should not explode?

In the movie they show the torpedoes having yellow warheads. The only topedoes that have yellow warheads are practice torpedoes! So they should not explode... They should merely run a certain distance and then pump out the ballast so they would stick out of the water. I think where the developers went wrong is in the displays that are shown all over the museum boats, that show practice torpedoes.
This is because most of the 'real' torpedoes were fired in WW2.

The actual torpedoes were not painted, had therefore a metal finish and were protected from rust and other corrosion with some kind of black grease.

The rest of the movie looks cool, I saw a lot of our boat in it...

irish1958 · 12-06-06, 08:31 AM

Gino,
They have to leave SOME work for the modelers.

Konovalov · 12-06-06, 09:00 AM

I'm impressed by that fact that the developers really appeared to have listened to the Silent Hunter community with regards to improvements over SHIII. Can't wait for more previews and bits of new info.

Apeboy · 12-06-06, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean_acheson

I am soooo ready for this game.

I can't help but think, that while the boats might have been stank as all git-out, they would have been decently clean and bright in the control sections.

http://www.uboat.net/gallery/index.h...995A&img=9

I for one, think that the SH4 boat looks a bit dingy.....

Agree. It does have alot of brown to it. Even outside at the port has a industrial, gotham city type atmosphere. Not the bright, airy, palm tree blowing in the wind enviroment.

The General · 12-06-06, 12:03 PM

Fantastic stuff! I guess they deliberately didn't show the seabed, probably 'cos it wasn't finished. Also, the underwater footage didn't include the particles (plankton, bubbles and whatever)and the beams of sunlight, that we've seen them in recent stills. They'd help to enhance the sense of motion through the water and add atmosphere.

Message to the Development Team: Please!! When on deck (ie. not the free-roaming camera mode), lock the camera view paralell with the sea-bed and not the deck. This'll enhance the sense of the boat pitching and rolling beneath your feet and look much more realistic in heavy swells and when diving & surfacing at steep angles. I believe the GWX team has done something similar.

Great work guys!

AJ! · 12-06-06, 03:49 PM

Look at the cannon fire from the yamato

Also sounds awsome that we get to explore the whole world!

12-05-06, 03:41 PM	#61
Loaf Mate Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 58 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	As usual... I notice that this video clip adheres to the long-standing tradition of the Silent Hunter franchise - any game trailer MUST devote at least 50% of its time to shots of battleships.

12-05-06, 03:42 PM	#62
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	They realy went overbopard with the explosions. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

12-05-06, 04:24 PM	#64
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	[quote=Loaf][quote=WilhelmSchulz. Anybody know how the conning tower was actually manned in an attack?[/quote] Well, at the very least you'd have two crewmembers manning the radar, the one at the TDC, and one at the plotting table. Plus you'd have the skipper, the helmsman, and XO in there too. While running submerged you'd also have someone at the hydrophone station. This site gives a good overview: http://www.maritime.org/tour/tctvr.htm __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

12-05-06, 08:58 PM	#68
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I'm looking forward to the third developer diary. Will be nice to see The answer to our Swedish friend's question above. What the damage effects will look like. Whether or not there are more crewman animations (ducking, repairing, looking in terror at a fire, etc.). Whether or not there'll be situations such as fires, thick smoke, battery acid leaks, and so on. Whether or not you'll actually see crewmen run through the compartment when ordered to go somewhere. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

12-06-06, 08:20 AM	#70
Gino Pacific Sub Expert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 148 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Are we the only ones that saw that the Torpedoes should not explode? In the movie they show the torpedoes having yellow warheads. The only topedoes that have yellow warheads are practice torpedoes! So they should not explode... They should merely run a certain distance and then pump out the ballast so they would stick out of the water. I think where the developers went wrong is in the displays that are shown all over the museum boats, that show practice torpedoes. This is because most of the 'real' torpedoes were fired in WW2. The actual torpedoes were not painted, had therefore a metal finish and were protected from rust and other corrosion with some kind of black grease. The rest of the movie looks cool, I saw a lot of our boat in it... __________________ Gino

12-05-06, 03:45 PM	#63
Loaf Mate Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 58 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	[quote=WilhelmSchulz.]The only thing is that the conning tower is empty. And thats the busyest place submerged! As I recall from visiting the USS Drum, the conning tower of a Gato sub is REALLY cramped - claustrophobic, in fact. I doubt that there could possibly have been more than one or two people in there with the skipper... I think a lot of the work on the attack may have taken place down in the control room? Anybody know how the conning tower was actually manned in an attack?

12-05-06, 04:41 PM	#65
Loaf Mate Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 58 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Funny - I thought I remembered the TDC and the helm in the control room... I must not be remembering correctly. My visit to the USS Drum was a while ago!

12-05-06, 05:29 PM	#66
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	I am soooo ready for this game. It seems like SH3 is kinda dark, from photos that I have seen from the U-505, and some of my U-Boat books. Dark and Dirty. I can't help but think, that while the boats might have been stank as all git-out, they would have been decently clean and bright in the control sections. http://www.uboat.net/gallery/index.h...995A&img=9 I for one, think that the SH4 boat looks a bit dingy.....

12-06-06, 12:56 AM	#69
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Looking great!

12-06-06, 08:31 AM	#71
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	SHIV Gino, They have to leave SOME work for the modelers. __________________ Irish1958

12-06-06, 09:00 AM	#72
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I'm impressed by that fact that the developers really appeared to have listened to the Silent Hunter community with regards to improvements over SHIII. Can't wait for more previews and bits of new info. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

12-06-06, 12:03 PM	#74
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Awesome! Fantastic stuff! I guess they deliberately didn't show the seabed, probably 'cos it wasn't finished. Also, the underwater footage didn't include the particles (plankton, bubbles and whatever)and the beams of sunlight, that we've seen them in recent stills. They'd help to enhance the sense of motion through the water and add atmosphere. Message to the Development Team: Please!! When on deck (ie. not the free-roaming camera mode), lock the camera view paralell with the sea-bed and not the deck. This'll enhance the sense of the boat pitching and rolling beneath your feet and look much more realistic in heavy swells and when diving & surfacing at steep angles. I believe the GWX team has done something similar. Great work guys!

12-06-06, 03:49 PM	#75
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Look at the cannon fire from the yamato Also sounds awsome that we get to explore the whole world! Last edited by AJ!; 12-06-06 at 04:21 PM.