The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread - Page 45

Steeltrap · 02-02-10, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Ubisoft should be the one who has to explain this... don't you think?

Correct. I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to do so, however!

If you raise it, however, it's only fair for me to ask how that comparison is appropriate to this case.

Cheers

IanC · 02-02-10, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Funny, internet accessibility & reliability don't actually prevent 11.5 million people from playing World of Warcraft.

No, but it will prevent me and thousands of other people with bad connection, from playing SH5.

Méo · 02-02-10, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by IanC

No, but it will prevent me and thousands of other people with bad connection, from playing SH5.

But what is exactly the type of connection required to play SHV?

Méo · 02-02-10, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap

If you raise it, however, it's only fair for me to ask how that comparison is appropriate to this case.

Because both SH5 and World of Warcraft are PC games, and both require an access (and I guess a reliable access) to internet to play.

Arclight · 02-02-10, 12:58 AM

You're missing the point; it's not about how many can play it, or what type of connection is required. The point is simply that requiring a connection at all excludes some people.

Méo · 02-02-10, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

You're missing the point; it's not about how many can play it, or what type of connection is required. The point is simply that requiring a connection at all excludes some people.

Are you sure I'm missing the point?

Cause the ''The point is simply that requiring a connection at all excludes some people'' you just said didn't prevent World of Warcraft from being a very successful title.

We could also say that the PC requirements exclude some people too.

Although an internet connection should not be as necessary as the PC requirements, they (Ubisoft) have to answer for that, I don't.

Armistead · 02-02-10, 01:18 AM

Well, with the economy in the US, over 28% of people will lose their internet this year, unable to afford it. I'm not buying a game I can't play offline. We get terrible weather sometimes. We just had a terrible winter storm and our cable was out for two days. Bored, I play SH4. Once during an ice storm our cable was out for 8 days, power 5...still that's 3 days.. So what if it's a few days a year. I would hate to think I can't use my product without an online connection....that I bought whenever I want too.

Will not buy.

Méo · 02-02-10, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

We just had a terrible winter storm

Where I live, we get terrible winter storm too!!

Everytime I loose internet in those, I loose electricity as well !

gronbek · 02-02-10, 01:42 AM

This is crystal clear for me.

I WILL NOT BUY THE GAME if it requires constant internet connection.

BR Anders

JScones · 02-02-10, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Are you sure I'm missing the point?

Cause the ''The point is simply that requiring a connection at all excludes some people'' you just said didn't prevent World of Warcraft from being a very successful title.

I think you are. You can't compare an MMORPG - where the O stands for Online - to a game that's aimed primarily at single players.

People who buy WoW buy it knowing that it's a multiplayer online game. Indeed, they buy it for that reason. Thus it's a safe assumption that they believe they have the required internet connection to support playing it.

SH5 is not primarily a multiplayer online game; it's primarily a single player game. Single players have less interest in the online part. Single players prolly don't even know or care what speed their broadband connection is, because they've only ever used it to read this forum, not play a single player game.

tonschk · 02-02-10, 02:06 AM

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This is crystal clear for me . I WILL BUY THE GAME

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Méo · 02-02-10, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

I think you are. You can't compare an MMORPG

My point was that if internet, in our times, wasn't reliable, they (WoW players) would have a really hard time playing it.

Reece · 02-02-10, 02:19 AM

This is crystal clear for me . I WILL NOT BUY THE GAME

Ragtag · 02-02-10, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Méo

My point was that if internet, in our times, wasn't reliable, they (WoW players) would have a really hard time playing it.

You haven't played WoW i guess. There has been ****loads of all kind of troubles both with the gameclient and the servers/connections. Anyone that claims that WoW went painfree down the road has no idea what he talks about. I'm guessing that OSP will probably work stable and fine in 4-5 years time just like WoW but i don't want to wait that long to play a singelplayer game ALONE.

Méo · 02-02-10, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragtag

You haven't played WoW i guess. There has been ****loads of all kind of troubles both with the gameclient and the servers/connections. Anyone that claims that WoW went painfree down the road has no idea what he talks about. I'm guessing that OSP will probably work stable and fine in 4-5 years time just like WoW but i don't want to wait that long to play a singelplayer game ALONE.

The network must somewhere have been efficient because this game has known unprecedented growth & success.

Now if you guys don't want to buy SH5 because it requires an internet connection and you think it should not, it's your choice, but it's another debate than what my point was about.

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My point was:

Internet accessibility & reliability don't actually prevent millions of people around the world from playing PC games.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Well, with the economy in the US, over 28% of people will lose their internet this year, unable to afford it. I'm not buying a game I can't play offline. We get terrible weather sometimes. We just had a terrible winter storm and our cable was out for two days. Bored, I play SH4. Once during an ice storm our cable was out for 8 days, power 5...still that's 3 days.. So what if it's a few days a year. I would hate to think I can't use my product without an online connection....that I bought whenever I want too. Will not buy.

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gronbek Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is crystal clear for me. I WILL NOT BUY THE GAME if it requires constant internet connection. BR Anders