Trump's Obama Announcement - Page 4

yubba · 10-24-12, 06:36 PM

Geeeezzz, birther crap,,hell we all know he was born as a women in kenya. I think this Ben gass ee thing will take him down,,they knew what was going on in real time and did nothing to help, I know that we should have had one of those things you call an AIR CRAFT CARRIER in the area, but no they sat on their hands and did nothing,,,and then lied about it...If this administration can't take care of their own and then try to cover it up,,what do you think they are going to do for you.???????

geetrue · 10-24-12, 10:03 PM

Did anyone else notice that Donald Trump is a white/blond anglo saxon while Barack Obama is a black/coffee tan kind of guy?

I tend to notice these things

plus it sounds like one of those teen gamer threats, "I own you man"
"weather you play it my way or not" " I own you"

Catfish · 10-25-12, 04:19 AM

Mr. Obama has proven this six or seven times ? I guess Mr Trump will soon lose some five million bucks.

But another question: If this Mr. Trump has 5 million bucks to spend "just so", but makes something else dependent on spending it for cancer/the poor/whatever, why would he never do it just to help ?

Because he is a borderless A'hole, i assume ?

CaptainHaplo · 10-25-12, 05:57 AM

The responses here crack me up.
It has nothing to do with "birtherism" - Trump is the one who helped lay that matter to rest with the long form release of the birth certificate, after all.

This is about whether or not Obama lied about his origins and history so that he could have access to greater opportunities that were not based on merit. These questions go directly to the question of character, not nationality.

While you will still have a few that would use an inconsistency to insist Obama is not a real citizen, the vast majority would see it only as him being intentionally dishonest for personal gain. The only thing is - he is a politician - so most of us already know that since they tend to all be that way.

Did he lie about his origins and heritage to get a "leg up" on others? If so, he wouldn't be the first politician of either party to do it. Warren in MA is still having to deal with her actions on the same subject. It speaks to character, and thus it IS a reasonable matter for the American people to know about before electing their next President.

The attempts to simply spin this as a "birther" issue is the only way the left can try to make it "off limits" and extreme. But that is all it is - spin.

Dread Knot · 10-25-12, 07:18 AM

Just another sad and pathetic Trump ploy to stay personally relevant at the GOP's expense.

August · 10-25-12, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

The attempts to simply spin this as a "birther" issue is the only way the left can try to make it "off limits" and extreme. But that is all it is - spin.

Yeah I don't understand how college records and passport info have anything much to do with where he was born...

AVGWarhawk · 10-25-12, 07:58 AM

Don Trumps bid to release BO college paperwork has nothing to do with birth certs. It has to do with BO applying to college and receiving financial aid as a foreign student.

Bush's college paperwork was released without issue. Why not BO?

mookiemookie · 10-25-12, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Don Trumps bid to release BO college paperwork has nothing to do with birth certs. It has to do with BO applying to college and receiving financial aid as a foreign student.

So you're saying it has something to do with his birth certificate.

AVGWarhawk · 10-25-12, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

So you're saying it has something to do with his birth certificate.

No. I'm saying there might be some falsehoods portrayed to obtain financial aid at the college. The guy lived around the world. Went to the finest schools. He was a son of single mom and brought up later by his grandparents. The dollars do not add up.

Why sealed records?

August · 10-25-12, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Why sealed records?

Don't expect a straight answer. Democrats are quite willing to abandon principles when it comes to their icons. I see it here in blue state Massachusetts all the time.

We have a senate candidate here who lied on her job application to Harvard listing herself as a minority. If it were a Republican they'd be screaming bloody murder but since she is a Democrat she gets a pass on it and her opponent is just being partisan for bringing it up in the first place.

AVGWarhawk · 10-25-12, 09:38 AM

Although I think the Don is a bit nutty with this, there is something to sealed records for both the Obamas. Records that anyone else, like Bush, would be a open book.

Obama is receiving yet another pass. This has nothing to do with birther crap everyone jumps all over when questions arise. Obama's past is not really dreams of his father.....

Dowly · 10-25-12, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Don Trumps bid to release BO college paperwork has nothing to do with birth certs. It has to do with BO applying to college and receiving financial aid as a foreign student.

Bush's college paperwork was released without issue. Why not BO?

Not long ago, we went through this, but here goes:

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Claims #1, 2 and 4, college records. Obama’s college records are not
“sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would
be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act
of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any
former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without
that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them,
but neither have other presidential candidates released their college
records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but
only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush
himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the
Washington Post.

And:

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Claim #15, foreign student aid. The claim that Obama got “foreign
student aid” is untrue. That wild falsehood began as an absurd April Fools’
Day hoax in 2009, which we quickly exposed.

From:
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

AVGWarhawk · 10-25-12, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Not long ago, we went through this, but here goes:

And:

From:
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

The discussion is not about court ordered sealed anything. It is about records that some would like to see. If there is nothing to hide why not let the records show there is nothing of mention and take the 5 million for a charity.

GoldenRivet · 10-25-12, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Don Trumps bid to release BO college paperwork has nothing to do with birth certs. It has to do with BO applying to college and receiving financial aid as a foreign student.

Bush's college paperwork was released without issue. Why not BO?

This

If he lied to gain an unfair advantage... i'd want to know.

AVGWarhawk · 10-25-12, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

This

If he lied to gain an unfair advantage... i'd want to know.

Claims, as Dowly posted links, are BO is clean as a whistle. If so, why not show the cleanliness in the records and take the 5 million? Heck, use it for his own charity called his campaign.

10-24-12, 10:03 PM	#47
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Did anyone else notice that Donald Trump is a white/blond anglo saxon while Barack Obama is a black/coffee tan kind of guy? I tend to notice these things plus it sounds like one of those teen gamer threats, "I own you man" "weather you play it my way or not" " I own you" __________________

10-25-12, 05:57 AM	#49
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	The responses here crack me up. It has nothing to do with "birtherism" - Trump is the one who helped lay that matter to rest with the long form release of the birth certificate, after all. This is about whether or not Obama lied about his origins and history so that he could have access to greater opportunities that were not based on merit. These questions go directly to the question of character, not nationality. While you will still have a few that would use an inconsistency to insist Obama is not a real citizen, the vast majority would see it only as him being intentionally dishonest for personal gain. The only thing is - he is a politician - so most of us already know that since they tend to all be that way. Did he lie about his origins and heritage to get a "leg up" on others? If so, he wouldn't be the first politician of either party to do it. Warren in MA is still having to deal with her actions on the same subject. It speaks to character, and thus it IS a reasonable matter for the American people to know about before electing their next President. The attempts to simply spin this as a "birther" issue is the only way the left can try to make it "off limits" and extreme. But that is all it is - spin. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

10-24-12, 06:36 PM	#46
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Geeeezzz, birther crap,,hell we all know he was born as a women in kenya. I think this Ben gass ee thing will take him down,,they knew what was going on in real time and did nothing to help, I know that we should have had one of those things you call an AIR CRAFT CARRIER in the area, but no they sat on their hands and did nothing,,,and then lied about it...If this administration can't take care of their own and then try to cover it up,,what do you think they are going to do for you.???????

10-25-12, 04:19 AM	#48
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Mr. Obama has proven this six or seven times ? I guess Mr Trump will soon lose some five million bucks. But another question: If this Mr. Trump has 5 million bucks to spend "just so", but makes something else dependent on spending it for cancer/the poor/whatever, why would he never do it just to help ? Because he is a borderless A'hole, i assume ?

10-25-12, 07:18 AM	#50
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Just another sad and pathetic Trump ploy to stay personally relevant at the GOP's expense.

10-25-12, 07:58 AM	#52
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Don Trumps bid to release BO college paperwork has nothing to do with birth certs. It has to do with BO applying to college and receiving financial aid as a foreign student. Bush's college paperwork was released without issue. Why not BO?

10-25-12, 09:38 AM	#56
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Although I think the Don is a bit nutty with this, there is something to sealed records for both the Obamas. Records that anyone else, like Bush, would be a open book. Obama is receiving yet another pass. This has nothing to do with birther crap everyone jumps all over when questions arise. Obama's past is not really dreams of his father.....