Eurozone deal reached without UK

Jimbuna · 12-09-11, 08:13 AM

It looks like the UK are about to become isolated in Europe...time to leave perhaps?

Look at the picture...I'd say Cameron is contemplating head butting Sarkozy

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PM David Cameron has effectively vetoed an EU-wide treaty change to tackle the eurozone crisis, saying it was not in the UK's interests.
Instead a new "accord" setting out tougher budget rules will be drawn up for the eurozone, which all EU states, except the UK, look set to join.
France's Nicolas Sarkozy said the UK PM had made "unacceptable" demands.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16104275

Dread Knot · 12-09-11, 08:21 AM

Europe is fast degrading into a rout of individual interests and not a unity. Cameron I believe is acting on GB interests. Good on him for Dunkirking the hell out of there first.

Jimbuna · 12-09-11, 08:24 AM

His dilemma was....he'd be damned at home if he gave away anymore sovereign powers and damned by his european peer group if he used the veto.

All things considered I believe he made the correct decision.

Dread Knot · 12-09-11, 08:34 AM

I notice that the agreement such as it is, had little to say about the staggering mountains of debt and the prospect of zero growth in most of Europe.

Still, it may be enough to goose the markets a bit.

STEED · 12-09-11, 08:58 AM

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Eurozone deal reached without UK

Pardon?

There is no deal as long as one EU member states no then there is no deal. True to say the 23 that have agreed but that's it, agreement only but not official.

Hungary said no and the others are pondering and asking questions.

Cameron has stood up but dose he now have the guts to stand his ground as that Fascist EU will now get the big stick out and smash the UK over the head or try to buy Cameron.

STEED · 12-09-11, 09:00 AM

Side Note: Croatia signs treaty to join EU in middle of 2013

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16106982

If the EU is finished why join it?

Herr-Berbunch · 12-09-11, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Look at the picture...I'd say Cameron is contemplating head butting Sarkozy

If he did that then I think even BossMark and STEED would become fans

STEED · 12-09-11, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Look at the picture...I'd say Cameron is contemplating head butting Sarkozy

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

If he did that then I think even BossMark and STEED would become fans

He should head butt Sarkozy and Merkel.

Oberon · 12-09-11, 01:31 PM

Very well, alone.

Hakahura · 12-09-11, 01:52 PM

Well done Dave!

About time too.

MH · 12-09-11, 01:55 PM

The Game is Up, The EURO is Finished! Nigel Farage Speaks Out

BossMark · 12-09-11, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

If he did that then I think even BossMark and STEED would become fans

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Originally Posted by STEED

He should head butt Sarkozy and Merkel.

Yeah take them both down. But as much as I hate Cameron and his Tory party, I have got say "well done" to him.

soopaman2 · 12-09-11, 04:37 PM

Good job Britain, European union was a disaster for the common people.

If you don't think someone(s) got rich from this worldwide finanacial crisis then you are daft, ignorant, or living under a rock.

Let the whole thing fall, the whole house of cards.

Then we can start over, with proper laws in place to protect people from financial wizards (predators).
Sure it will hurt, but alot of folks are already hurt by this, time for everyone to share in the burden, not just the super poor, and the lower middle class. Who has bore the brunt of this for the last 5 years.

Capitalism is broken, not the system, but the people who are meant to protect us from the extremes of it.

Rockstar · 12-09-11, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

.. but the people who are meant to protect us from the extremes of it.

what you just said regardless of the system is the problem.

CaptainHaplo · 12-09-11, 07:24 PM

looks to me he is thinking about whether those two are doin it..... and laughing at the idea

12-09-11, 08:24 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	His dilemma was....he'd be damned at home if he gave away anymore sovereign powers and damned by his european peer group if he used the veto. All things considered I believe he made the correct decision. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Side Note: Croatia signs treaty to join EU in middle of 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16106982 If the EU is finished why join it? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Hakahura Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 785 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well done Dave! About time too. __________________ Sir Humphey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO and MA. Britain's Greatest Orator, well bar that Churchill fellow.

12-09-11, 04:37 PM	#13
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Good job Britain, European union was a disaster for the common people. If you don't think someone(s) got rich from this worldwide finanacial crisis then you are daft, ignorant, or living under a rock. Let the whole thing fall, the whole house of cards. Then we can start over, with proper laws in place to protect people from financial wizards (predators). Sure it will hurt, but alot of folks are already hurt by this, time for everyone to share in the burden, not just the super poor, and the lower middle class. Who has bore the brunt of this for the last 5 years. Capitalism is broken, not the system, but the people who are meant to protect us from the extremes of it. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

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CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	looks to me he is thinking about whether those two are doin it..... and laughing at the idea __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

12-09-11, 08:21 AM	#2
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Europe is fast degrading into a rout of individual interests and not a unity. Cameron I believe is acting on GB interests. Good on him for Dunkirking the hell out of there first.

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Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I notice that the agreement such as it is, had little to say about the staggering mountains of debt and the prospect of zero growth in most of Europe. Still, it may be enough to goose the markets a bit.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Very well, alone.

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MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	The Game is Up, The EURO is Finished! Nigel Farage Speaks Out