Herman Cain...driving the left crazy - Page 4

soopaman2 · 10-13-11, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by August

But she did run against Obama in the Primary. If she wasn't a crooked lawyer she might have won too...

I meant this time around. I am the resident lefty ya know. She has proven her worth by touring the world and staring women hating arabs in the face and talking to them as equals.
I just vote for whoever is most competent in my eyes, or best for the country.

I voted for GW twice, because love him or hate him, he was honest. And you knew what he was thinking. Sincere, and at time emotional.

Voted for Obama , thanks Palin you dolt. Mc Cain is close to center and was even accused of being a RINO (Repub in name only).

As of now, I'm torn between Herman Cain or Lady GaGa as a write in.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-11, 10:20 AM

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I meant this time around. I am the resident lefty ya know. She has proven her worth by touring the world and staring women hating arabs in the face and talking to them as equals.
I just vote for whoever is most competent in my eyes, or best for the country.

Hillary should have been the candidate last go around. The establishment did not what that. BO was groomed and pushed through. At every turn he was on the news. It was a well executed plan started long before the campaigning began. Hillary did not have a chance in her own party. I would have voted for Hillary.

mookiemookie · 10-13-11, 10:24 AM

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Until then, there is Cain. Who is as close to the center as you can be without ticking off the hardcore red states.

I'm sorry, someone who says that Planned Parenthood's mission is to kill black babies is not close to center. Someone who would discriminate against people based upon their religion is not a centrist. Inncreasing the deficit by eliminating taxes is not a center position. Someone that wants to see Warren Buffett taxed at the same rate as a McDonald's cashier is not a centrist candidate.

If you actually look at what he's advocating for, he's about as hard right as they come.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-11, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm sorry, someone who says that Planned Parenthood's mission is to kill black babies is not close to center. Someone who would discriminate against people based upon their religion is not a centrist. Inncreasing the deficit by eliminating taxes is not a center position. Someone that wants to see Warren Buffett taxed at the same rate as a McDonald's cashier is not a centrist candidate.

If you actually look at what he's advocating for, he's about as hard right as they come.

Can you cite your sources for Planned Parenthood, discriminate because of religion and increasing the deficit by eliminating taxes.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 10-13-11, 10:36 AM

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I voted for GW twice, because love him or hate him, he was honest. And you knew what he was thinking. Sincere, and at time emotional.

Who is GW? I'm foreigner and those initials don't ring a bell.

mookiemookie · 10-13-11, 10:39 AM

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Can you cite your sources for Planned Parenthood, discriminate because of religion and increasing the deficit by eliminating taxes.

Planned parenthood: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...anned-genocide

Muslims:

And his tax proposal, you can find arguments on both sides. Center for American Progress did a study that showed it would bankrupt the country, and then there's conservative groups and analysts that say it would make ice cream and rainbows rain from the sky. I tend to believe those that say it reduced revenue, as the idea it's based around, the Laffer Curve (simply put, it suggests that the lower tax rates are, the more revenue the government earns due to increased economic activity) , has been proven to be a bunch of bull.

soopaman2 · 10-13-11, 10:42 AM

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Who is GW? I'm foreigner and those initials don't ring a bell.

George Walker Bush (Jr, Dubya) sorry.

GW is used to distinguish him from his father.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-11, 10:42 AM

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Planned parenthood: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...anned-genocide

Muslims:

And his tax proposal, you can find arguments on both sides. Center for American Progress did a study that showed it would bankrupt the country, and then there's conservative groups and analysts that say it would make ice cream and rainbows rain from the sky. I tend to believe those that say it reduced revenue, as the idea it's based around, the Laffer Curve (simply put, it suggests that the lower tax rates are, the more revenue the government earns due to increased economic activity) , has been proven to be a bunch of bull.

Do you think that Cain is possibly right about Planned Parenthood? Can we simply dismiss his statement? As far as the Muslim deal, he said any that are part of the Jihad run on the country. He did clarify his statement.

As far as his tax proposal....9-9-9 has little chance of getting approved however Cain recognizes the tax code needs work. I agree.

August · 10-13-11, 10:43 AM

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Hillary was snookered by her own party in the last election IMO. August, they wanted BO in the WH.

I think they also realized that Hillary couldn't win in the General election. Like Palin she is just too polarizing a figure.

Sailor Steve · 10-13-11, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

I am the resident lefty ya know.

Mookie held that title long before you came along. Credit where credit is due. And CCIP is a true communist, and makes you look like you're hardcore right.

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She has proven her worth by touring the world and staring women hating arabs in the face and talking to them as equals.
I just vote for whoever is most competent in my eyes, or best for the country.

I can't think of anyone worse for the country than someone who tried to sneak a socialist healthcare bill in while she wasn't even an elected official.

I'm about as centrist as you can get. I've been called a right-wing nutjob and a flaming liberal, based on my stance on particular subjects, but I hold with neither side, and I believe that "sides" are the bane of any political discussion.

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Who is GW? I'm foreigner and those initials don't ring a bell.

That would be our last president, George "Dubya" Bush.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-11, 10:49 AM

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I think they also realized that Hillary couldn't win in the General election. Like Palin she is just too polarizing a figure.

I don't. She was squashed by her own people. Again, they wanted BO in the WH. IMO.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-11, 10:52 AM

We can simply dismiss Cain on his statement concerning Planned Parenthood:

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In 2006, Planned Parenthood performed 289,750 abortions, or approximately 23% of all abortions, making them the largest abortion provider in the United States. Even as the overall national abortion rate goes down, Planned Parenthood continues to perform more abortions every year.

Sources: Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Planned Parenthood Federation of America 2005-2006 Annual Report. http://www.lifeissues.org/pp/report_05-06.pdf.

http://www.whyprolife.com/planned-parenthood/

mookiemookie · 10-13-11, 10:52 AM

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Do you think that Cain is possibly right about Planned Parenthood?

If it weren't for Planned Parenthood providing birth control to women who couldn't otherwise afford it, I personally would have been an unplanned father. And because they provide birth control to those who can't afford it, they make abortions unnecessary. I have no idea how the anti-abortion crowd has twisted that into "Planned Parenthood's sole mission is abortions." Abortion makes up 3% of Planned Parenthood's services. 83% of their business is preventing abortions by making them unnecessary.

mookiemookie · 10-13-11, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

We can simply dismiss Cain on his statement concerning Planned Parenthood:

Sources: Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Planned Parenthood Federation of America 2005-2006 Annual Report. http://www.lifeissues.org/pp/report_05-06.pdf.

http://www.whyprolife.com/planned-parenthood/

Maybe they're the largest abortion provider by numbers because they're a larger organization than the abortion clinic that only has one office? That's a useless and misleading statistic.

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-11, 10:54 AM

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If it weren't for Planned Parenthood providing birth control to women who couldn't otherwise afford it, I personally would have been an unplanned father. And because they provide birth control to those who can't afford it, they make abortions unnecessary. I have no idea how the anti-abortion crowd has twisted that into "Planned Parenthood's sole mission is abortions." Abortion makes up 3% of Planned Parenthood's services. 83% of their business is preventing abortions by making them unnecessary.

Mookie...you can get condoms at school!!!! My 13 year old daughter can get them. We can take the can't afford it off the table.