Herman Cain...driving the left crazy

[AVGWarhawk]

Unless you want to vote for Bachmann

She lost me with the 666 nonsense.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

She lost me with the 666 nonsense.

Tell me she would not make for good entertainment.

There's an old misogynistic joke about a woman can never be president because she would nuke someone every 28 days... Bachmann would be her.
(it's an old joke ladies, be nice. I would have voted for Hilary personally, big set of cojones on her)

Go on do it, America needs a laugh.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Bubbles, who are you trying to kid?
You have a habit of using left and lefty in the same way you use liberal.
What is amusing is that in political terms you have no clue what left or liberal even mean other than as a perjorative term for anyone who doesn't have a bubble view of the world

I rarely respond to you because you are just a storehouse of ignorance but I will play the game this once.

Not trying to kid for anyone and uh yea I know what left and liberal means.

Tribes, you have no clue on how to have a debate, discussion etc without trying to insult someone. Typical tactic, shift the subject, name call etc.

I was actually complimenting soopa that unlike many on here(including you) he can have a cordial interation on here even if we disagree.

rarely respond to you because you are just a storehouse of ignorance but I will play the game this once.

Bubbles , you don't have to respond, your posts already say it all, the fact that you responded with a very lame denial just illustrates the point even more.

Not trying to kid for anyone and uh yea I know what left and liberal means.

Yes I know, for you it means as an example every student you are studying with and the entire faculty staff who don't know anything and are all indoctrinated and trying to brainwash you plus all the authors of the texts you are supposed to learn.

Typical tactic, shift the subject, name call etc

...perfect, review the topic young man

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Aww... guys could you please bury Tomahawk for a moment? This is starting to lose its entertaiment value again...

[CaptainHaplo]

You don't want them to bury the hatchet....

Otherwise the battle axes will come out!

As to the OP - Herman just hit the #1 spot in a recent WSJ/NBC poll...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

He is an enemy because he isn't part of the establishment - and the establishment better wake up to the fact that the PEOPLE are the ones that make the call....

As to the OP - Herman just hit the #1 spot in a recent WSJ/NBC poll...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

He is an enemy because he isn't part of the establishment - and the establishment better wake up to the fact that the PEOPLE are the ones that make the call....

Sounds like a mirror of the last election.
The outsider leading the polls with an amazing surge since September.
Maybe the PEOPLE won't actually go for Clark for president as his policy positions show a lack of experience and are unworkable.......but he might make a good VP for President Dean who is the other real choice.

As for the PEOPLE making the call, that would be those people who can choose in each state due to their different primary rules weighed with those people whose primaries are in states which don't really count which then will go on to the people who vote in the actual election whose call will go to college, which means even the final the majority vote of the people can be the losing vote.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

As for the PEOPLE making the call, that would be those people who can choose in each state due to their different primary rules weighed with those people whose primaries are in states which don't really count which then will go on to the people who vote in the actual election whose call will go to college, which means even the final the majority vote of the people can be the losing vote.

True in that winning the majority alone does not win you the contest. Then again, that is the case for primaries as well as for the presidency since we have the electoral college.

What is interesting is that this time around, with so many states moving their GOP primaries to earlier dates, and thus losing half their delegates because of it - it really changes the map when it comes to how important certain contests are.

Now, how "ironic" is it that Cain, who has surged past Romney in FL, would only get half as many delegates as he would have otherwise should he keep that momentum and win there? An establishment plot, or an unfortunate circumstance for the candidate?

Is the "jockeying" by the state GOP leaders on primary dates - with their subsequent losing of half their delegates to the convention - a scheme to make sure the "chosen" candidate wins?

A question I was asked yesterday, thought I would get feedback on it.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Cain for me represents a sane middle ground. I believe in compromise. I think a fair middle ground to achieve a happy balance.

as the resident belligerent liberal, I like this. I don't know if cain is any of this, but, I welcome a republican that actually supports individual liberties in all things, not just with guns, atheists and gays be dammed! I also would love to see a candidate who is also fiscally conservative when it comes to the defense budget, not just on all the social programs.

[AVGWarhawk]

You have to love the media or hate it......from the link above and posted again:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

Former restaurant-industry executive Herman Cain

Two days ago he was just the pizza guy!

What is interesting is that this time around, with so many states moving their GOP primaries to earlier dates, and thus losing half their delegates because of it - it really changes the map when it comes to how important certain contests are.

But how many of the penalisable states are before the date?
Are there more or less States going to take penalties than in 2008?
It changes some contests on the map in terms of importance, but is it really a major change or a even a bigger change than last time.

Is the "jockeying" by the state GOP leaders on primary dates - with their subsequent losing of half their delegates to the convention - a scheme to make sure the "chosen" candidate wins?

I think the jockeying is just the usual combination of local preferences mixed with the hope of local pork

[AVGWarhawk]

Is the "jockeying" by the state GOP leaders on primary dates - with their subsequent losing of half their delegates to the convention - a scheme to make sure the "chosen" candidate wins?

Quite possibly, yes. Redistricting happens constantly at the state level. In doing so it changes not only the number of voters in the newly changed district but also the demographics of the district. It can and does sway an election at a state level. Happens in MD all the time. There is no reason primary dates could not change the outcome and assure a "win" for their "guy."

[soopaman2]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/h...134944562.html


Romney looks so creepy, Cain beats him over the head repeatedly and he just puts on that fake smile.

This Cain thing has legs.

I really wished Hilary ran against Obama...
She possesses a spine and has more experience as a first lady, than Obama has as the actual Commander in Chief.

Until then, there is Cain. Who is as close to the center as you can be without ticking off the hardcore red states.

[August]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I really wished Hilary ran against Obama...

But she did run against Obama in the Primary. If she wasn't a crooked lawyer she might have won too...

[AVGWarhawk]

Hillary was snookered by her own party in the last election IMO. August, they wanted BO in the WH.