Illegal to talk to a Police Officer?

[krashkart]

Their first mistake was to say anything at all. There are only four things you should ever say to a cop:

1. I don't know why you pulled me over.
2. I do not give you consent to search my car.
3. I have nothing more to say.
4. (if they're knocking on your door) I'd like to see a search warrant.

Anything else and you're giving them stuff to use against you.

See, I learned it the other way around:

1. Yes sir.
2. No sir.

That's about all that really needs to be said unless giving them a statement. Get mouthy with them over a simple moving violation and you're only asking for trouble.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

When was the last time you had a shootout in the meat department? Let's not compare apples and oranges here.

I saw no bullets flying in that video either august. Before the person even got out of the car the cop was already being extremely rude to him.

why don't you stop comparing apples to oranges, because a simple traffic stop is not a gunfight. you're "dangerous Job" argument really doesn't apply in this case. why you might ask? Because if a cop does what he is supposed to do, he is trying not to provoke people. Yelling at otherwise peaceful citizens is counter to what a cop is supposed to do, and can only provoke violence.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I tend to agree going on what I have seen on that link.

The Officer obviously knew at least one of them and as such he gave the guy the opportunity to stop his rhetoric

For about 2 milliseconds, then he went into roid rage mode.

Originally Posted by August

Yep. I think most people don't realize how quickly that kind of situation can turn violent.

The situation was turned violent - by the policeman.

Imagine how things might have turned out if the officer had actually listened and not gotten into an argument. You know, if he had acted like a professional, and not pointlessly escalated the situation.

I guess that's too much to ask from so many of today's police.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

yeah - he probably didnt learn a thing.

I'm not sure, but i think the police have a right to restrain a person who is interfering with official matters or otherwise being belligerent even if a crime has not necessarily been committed. - not really placing them under arrest - but just taking them out of the equation so to speak.

then again - im no expert on the subject

I've no idea about US law but over here in the UK we call it 'threatening a breach of the peace'....not a serious offence in itself but one that empowers you to yake the instigator into custody if you feel it justified or necessary.

For about 2 milliseconds, then he went into roid rage mode.

Yet you don't know what happened other than what was filmed on the officers return to the car.
It is very easy to get someone well wound up and then trigger them over something apparently little once you get the situation right.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

"Ask a cop something, without aggression, without swearing, without sarcasm".

You don't want to tell us that you never got into trouble with the authorities because of sarcasm?! - and I'm not talking about the subsim authorities....

You don't want to tell us that you never got into trouble with the authorities because of sarcasm?! - and I'm not talking about the subsim authorities...

If you want to wind a copper up by doing absolutely nothing wrong then just ask him the time or ask for directions

[Penguin]

what felony would that be: confusing and overexerting?

Same goes for the inhabitants of Essen: if you ever go there (why would anybody?): never ask for directions... - though I have to try to ask a cop from there...

what felony would that be: confusing and overexerting?

It works best when the policeman is stood under a clock

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I saw no bullets flying in that video either august. Before the person even got out of the car the cop was already being extremely rude to him.

why don't you stop comparing apples to oranges, because a simple traffic stop is not a gunfight. you're "dangerous Job" argument really doesn't apply in this case. why you might ask? Because if a cop does what he is supposed to do, he is trying not to provoke people. Yelling at otherwise peaceful citizens is counter to what a cop is supposed to do, and can only provoke violence.

Well you're wrong.

Every traffic stop has the potential to turn deadly. Every one. If you don't realize that you have no conception of what a policemans job entails.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

Well you're wrong.

Every traffic stop has the potential to turn deadly. Every one. If you don't realize that you have no conception of what a policemans job entails.

did you not notice how the cop instigated things bell yelling at the person? He had no right to do that, if he had not yelled at them nothing would have happened. He started it, he was wrong to do so...cut and dry.

[Wolfehunter]

I never had an issue yet personally with cops when I was pulled over. he didn't even have to ask I had the papers readied. We both knew what I did wrong. So there was no need to argue. I think he knew that I knew I was caught. My damn squeaky wheels when I turned from a wrong lane and cut off another lane.. ---- For a month everybody was doing it.. I figured I take the chance.. That damn day there was cops at the corner.. I would have made it but my wheels squealed when I turned hard.

$51 dollars ticket.. never did it again hehe..

did you not notice how the cop instigated things bell yelling at the person?

You cannot say that as you don't know what went on before the cop returned to the car.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

You cannot say that as you don't know what went on before the cop returned to the car.

I'll bet that statement can be applied to the majority of threads like this on the internet. People don't care what went on before hand, particularly if it would justify any actions the cop took. All they want is the slightest reason to be able shake their fist in the air and yell fight the power. Especially on the internet. Its like a fad. They want to be able to tell cops how to do their jobs, without walking even a 50 yards in their shoes, let alone a mile. Far too many people think their special, and cops are an object of hatred because they're the ones who remind folks they aren't.

And in california, there are A LOT of special people. They must be special, because the way they act, apparently the rules don't apply to them.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

And in california, there are A LOT of special people. They must be special, because the way they act, apparently the rules don't apply to them.

Oh, right, like the SoCal desert grows 'em exclusively.