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Old 05-02-11, 01:29 PM   #1
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Well the passenger back talked the cop. Being alone and facing a potential three on one situation the cop restrained him and called for backup. I don't see that rising to the level of wrongful arrest.
I tend to agree going on what I have seen on that link.

The Officer obviously knew at least one of them and as such he gave the guy the opportunity to stop his rhetoric and the guy didn't, so seeing the potential for the scenario to start escalating he took control of the situation and certainly wasn't using excessive force.
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I tend to agree going on what I have seen on that link.

The Officer obviously knew at least one of them and as such he gave the guy the opportunity to stop his rhetoric and the guy didn't, so seeing the potential for the scenario to start escalating he took control of the situation and certainly wasn't using excessive force.
Yep. I think most people don't realize how quickly that kind of situation can turn violent.
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Old 05-02-11, 02:38 PM   #3
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Yep. I think most people don't realize how quickly that kind of situation can turn violent.
Aye...you need to take control from the very outset and leave nobody in doubt your in control of the situation.

as soon as you get involved in an exchange of words things quickly go up a few notches and looking at the odds he more than likely carried out that early/init6ial assessment as he was approaching the vehicle.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:05 PM   #4
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Looks to me as though he was detained not arrested and you are supposed to follow lawful instructions that a police officer gives you the kid talked back several times and was detained.

On top of that the kid is moving around all over the place in the car which looks suspicious and is dangerous to the cop:what is he possibly hiding/reaching for?

Also good rule of thumb is to simply show proper respect you dont know if you are dealing with a professional officer or a poor one.

I have seen some dash cam clips that my brother in law who is deputy has shown me where a simple verbal situation turned violent fire fight shockingly quickly.
I notice that there are some other equally baised clips about this same areas law enforcement on youtube. in this one they are being equally disrespectful and seem to trying to cause trouble:

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I tend to agree going on what I have seen on that link.

The Officer obviously knew at least one of them and as such he gave the guy the opportunity to stop his rhetoric
For about 2 milliseconds, then he went into roid rage mode.

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Yep. I think most people don't realize how quickly that kind of situation can turn violent.
The situation was turned violent - by the policeman.

Imagine how things might have turned out if the officer had actually listened and not gotten into an argument. You know, if he had acted like a professional, and not pointlessly escalated the situation.

I guess that's too much to ask from so many of today's police.
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