SH5 or SH3 GWX?

[Enjay]

I played SH5 a bit. Liked it. Got a little frustrated then bought, after reading stuff here, SH3 with GWX which I had never tried (GWX, I mean).

The short version is that I quite liked some things in SH5, not to mention the visuals. I really like the depth, detail, etc of SH3/GWX. I never tried any mods in SH5.

My question is, which should I be playing?

[stoianm]

Originally Posted by Enjay

I played SH5 a bit. Liked it. Got a little frustrated then bought, after reading stuff here, SH3 with GWX which I had never tried (GWX, I mean).

The short version is that I quite liked some things in SH5, not to mention the visuals. I really like the depth, detail, etc of SH3/GWX. I never tried any mods in SH5.

My question is, which should I be playing?

Start with MO: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...176123&page=78

and

see this here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=61


The SH5 changed a lot in meantime after the effort of all moders from here.. the SH5 with mods it is completly another game... and i will say to play SH5... if you not belive watch some videos to see how SH5 looks now:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...02&postcount=1

regards

p.s. the only thing that i not like on sh5 it is that we have not so manny ships and that is raining when is -40 degrees outside

[Shiplord]

Originally Posted by Enjay

The short version is that I quite liked some things in SH5, not to mention the visuals.

Ask the many Minecraft player, it is not the visuals that moved them to play that game. SH5 is broken by design And no mod can cure this disease

[Takeda Shingen]

You'll get no end of opinions on this; many of them pretty harsh and nasty. My advice would be to try both. SH3 is pretty cheap now, and comes bundled with SH2. Then you can make your own call.

For the record, I disagree with Shiplord's assessment of the game.

[Sailor Steve]

Aces Of The Deep is aces. Everything since is garbage.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You'll get no end of opinions on this; many of them pretty harsh and nasty. My advice would be to try both. SH3 is pretty cheap now, and comes bundled with SH2. Then you can make your own call.

Usually this is the point where I would go into a lengthy comparison, but what Tak said is the truth. It's all opinion. SH5 is newer and better, SH3 is more developed. SH5 is the future, but the future is still unfinished. SH3 is finished, but still being advanced. Nobody mentions SH4, which is somewhere in between and some think is the best.

See how easy opinions are, and how useless?

Which one should you play? Only you can answer that question, and only if you try all three. The bottom line is that the best is the one that suits you, and no one can do that for you. Since you already have SH3 it should be easy for you to find out.

Originally Posted by Shiplord

Ask the many Minecraft player, it is not the visuals that moved them to play that game. SH5 is broken by design And no mod can cure this disease

SH5 isn't a post-Medieval2 Total war game, it is modable and a lot of its problems can be fixed.

[ddrgn]

Originally Posted by Shiplord

Ask the many Minecraft player, it is not the visuals that moved them to play that game. SH5 is broken by design And no mod can cure this disease

I couldn't imagine after playing years of GWX and one year of SH5, even considering recommending SH3 to anyone anymore. I hate to tell the SH3 fans around here but what SH5 and its community has done surpasses anything done with its predecessors. This is my opinion after following the modding done with SH3/4/5 for the last 5 years daily. If i was still on the fence about buying SH5 because of certain requirements and personal preference, I would be sooo sooo jealous of what the SH5 modding community does and would probably hide out in the SH3 and 4 forums

[Zedi]

Originally Posted by ddrgn

I couldn't imagine after playing years of GWX and one year of SH5, even considering recommending SH3 to anyone anymore. I hate to tell the SH3 fans around here but what SH5 and its community has done surpasses anything done with its predecessors. This is my opinion after following the modding done with SH3/4/5 for the last 5 years daily. If i was still on the fence about buying SH5 because of certain requirements and personal preference, I would be sooo sooo jealous of what the SH5 modding community does and would probably hide out in the SH3 and 4 forums

+1

And you helped a lot to make SH5 better. UHS was and still is one of the most important mod for SH5, combined with IRAI is like patch 1.3.

[ddrgn]

I had a lot of fun making that mod! Thanks!

[SkyBaron]

If you're looking for a U-Boat war simulation, SH3+GWX is the way to go.

Now if you're looking for a Type VII simulator, SH5 is the best choice! It beats SH3's Type VIIs.

Yeah I can't wait till we actually get some submarine choice in SH5... the VII is okay but I'd rather have a bit of freedom of choice. Back when I used to play SH3 I used to always use the IX, plus the ability to start out in that lil type II and work your way up was just fun.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by ddrgn

I hate to tell the SH3 fans around here but what SH5 and its community has done surpasses anything done with its predecessors.

You shouldn't hate to tell anyone what you feel. I suspect that you really don't, but figures of speech out of respect for others' feelings are always welcome.

I feel the same way about SH4, especially since it already has many of the improvements that SH5 has, but is compatible with work that has been done on SH3. Of course SH5 has added even more, but still lacks what some of us desire.

This is my opinion after following the modding done with SH3/4/5 for the last 5 years daily. If i was still on the fence about buying SH5 because of certain requirements and personal preference, I would be sooo sooo jealous of what the SH5 modding community does and would probably hide out in the SH3 and 4 forums

I'm not on the fence at all. As soon as the DRM is completely gone they'll get my money. On the other hand I know I won't play it, at least not consistently, until I can have what I want, and certain annoyances, admittedly minor, are gone.

But why would I hide out somewhere else, and why would I be jealous? That's a pretty condescending thing to say, especially to people who support all subsims. Until SH5 can be made to do the things it should have done out of the box, there's nothing to be jealous of.

[ddrgn]

I wasn't being specific to anyone, sorry. I understand your point, but after all the beatings SH5 has taken here at subsim its nice to see where it stands after a year. Its quite impressive what the community has done and makes it my logical recommendation to any new subsimmer.

[Sailor Steve]

And I agree. My reasons for being certain I won't enjoy it anytime soon aside, I think everyone without my compunctions should get it and at least find out for themselves if they like it or not.

I also still have high hopes that eventually it will truly surpass everything that's gone before, and have no argument with anyone who believes it already has.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by ddrgn

If i was still on the fence about buying SH5 because of certain requirements and personal preference, I would be sooo sooo jealous of what the SH5 modding community does and would probably hide out in the SH3 and 4 forums

edit:
When SH5 can:
- Have a fully rendered Type 9 AND render more crewman then vanilla.
- Have a full KM grid
- allow you to actually touch the damn bottom

When SH5 can do all that, let me know will ya?