U.S. Navy to Probe Lewd Videos Shown to Carrier Crew

[RickC Sniper]

I just don't understand the debate. I knew his career was over the minute I saw the video.

You guys moaning about this being caused by the political correctness crowd are WAY out of line.

It's the fact that he made the video, using those themes, with the stated intent of being offensive to certain groups of people. That's where I feel he crossed the line.

Where he went way over the line was to state his intent to repeat being offensive and complain that people had complained through channels about being offended.
That shows he was really really dumb.

Let those "offended" put on a uniform, pick up a weapon, and man a post!

Errrrr...the complaints from the offended came from people in uniform who were doing their job in their posts

STFU!

Thats from the land of the free with freedom of speech isn't it, how enterprising

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

It is clear from the leak of the video that there were people onboard who took offense to it. People are going to have disagreements with each other, and many will not get along without the pot being stirred by, of all people, a commanding or executive officer. What do those actions do in terms of crew division and readiness for combat?

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Originally Posted by Information Dissemination

CDR Honors became XO while Enterprise was at Northrop Grumman Newport News Shipyard for a scheduled Extended Selected Restricted Availability (ESRA). On October 13, 2005 USS Enterprise (CVN 65) departed Northrop Grumman Newport News, Va., for the first time since Sept. 2004 to conduct sea trials and flight deck certification in the Atlantic Ocean. The carrier completed Flight Deck Certification on Oct. 19. The carrier began Tailored Ships Training Assessment (TSTA) at the end of October 2005, and around the same time was offshore participating in exercises that gave us these kind of amazing photographs. After less than six weeks, it was reported on November 19, 2005 the Enterprise successfully concluded its Tailored Ship’s Training Availability period and Final Evaluation Phase (FEP).

Training continued in late February 2006 until COMPTUEX was completed in mid-March 2006, with the carrier returning home on March 31st. The deployment in which the videos were created was between May 2, 2006 and on November 18, 2006 USS Enterprise returned to homeport after steaming nearly 60,000 miles. During their deployment, CVW-1 aircraft delivered 65,000 pounds of ordnance, including 137 precision weapons, to provide unprecedented support of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) and Operation Iraqi Freedom. They completed more than 8,300 sorties, of which 2,186 were combat missions, while flying more than 22,500 hours and making 6,916 day and night arrested landings.

[Takeda Shingen]

Really. You are insinuating that this type of behavior is beneficial to combat readiness. Very well, I will concede the point. In fact, I will go a step further in suggesting that combat readiness could be increased by the regular distribution of liquor and permissibility of personal firearms onboard. I will have none of this sissy pseudo-machismo. I want the wild west on the seas; booze, gunfights, gambling, spitoons, whorehouses.

[MaddogK]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Really. You are insinuating that this type of behavior is beneficial to combat readiness. Very well, I will concede the point. In fact, I will go a step further in suggesting that combat readiness could be increased by the regular distribution of liquor and permissibility of personal firearms onboard. I will have none of this sissy pseudo-machismo. I want the wild west on the seas; booze, gunfights, gambling, spitoons, whorehouses.

Actually they do allow a bit of alcohol if the ship has been out of port for an extended period. You're not allowed a personal stash, but I remember 2 cans of 3.2 beer after we we're out of Olongapo for 90 days (which knocked me flat on my butt).

I believe it's in the regs.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

Actually they do allow a bit of alcohol if the ship has been out of port for an extended period. You're not allowed a personal stash, but I remember 2 cans of 3.2 beer after we we're out of Olongapo for 90 days (which knocked me flat on my butt).

I believe it's in the regs.

Hmph. Navy bowing to PC pressure again.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Really. You are insinuating that this type of behavior is beneficial to combat readiness.

Actually I thought he was just answering your own insinuation that it was detrimental to combat readiness. If so then from where I sit you've done a much poorer job of proving your insinuation than he has in proving his. Wild west indeed.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Actually I thought he was just answering your own insinuation that it was detrimental to combat readiness. If so then from where I sit you've done a much poorer job of proving your insinuation than he has in proving his. Wild west indeed.

Thank you August. Wild west for sure. Established that my views are of no value or relevance, I remove myself in hopes of no further putrifying the thread. I leave further discourse to the enlightened.

I suppose that I simply must learn to acquiesce to relative standards.

[MaddogK]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Hmph. Navy bowing to PC pressure again.

Na, I believe it was a carryover from pre-colonial days where each sailor was guaranteed a certain amount of rum rationed. I did keep us from becoming one-can-commando's when we returned to port.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

Na, I believe it was a carryover from pre-colonial days where each sailor was guaranteed a certain amount of rum rationed. I did keep us from becoming one-can-commando's when we returned to port.

Actually, the rum and grog standards are derived from the fact that there was limited fresh water available on long journeys. As each would keep for a longer while, and the dehydrating effects of alcohol were not understood, they frequently stood in place for water rations.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Thank you August. Wild west for sure. Established that my views are of no value or relevance, I remove myself in hopes of no further putrifying the thread. I leave further discourse to the enlightened.

Takeda please, such theatrics don't become you.

Molon Labe backed up his position in the form of a proven track record of success. You posted something about gun fights, whorehouses and spittoons. You don't get to play the insulted card now.

Now I happen to agree with the Captains removal from command for this incident. I question the timing of it, why it's just coming up now, years later, but regardless, while I don't think it really affected combat readiness one way or the other it is still not conduct becoming a senior officer.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Takeda please, such theatrics don't become you.

Molon Labe backed up his position in the form of a proven track record of success. You posted something about gun fights, whorehouses and spittoons. You don't get to play the insulted card now.

Now I happen to agree with the Captains removal from command for this incident. I question the timing of it, why it's just coming up now, years later, but regardless, while I don't think it really affected combat readiness one way or the other it is still not conduct becoming a senior officer.

Evitently the truth that sarcasm, particularly the self-depricating variety, does not lend itself to text is, for lack of a less redundant term, true.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Evitently the truth that sarcasm, particularly the self-depricating variety, does not lend itself to text is, for lack of a less redundant term, true.

I hear ya. I really have to cut back on the commas!

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

I really have to cut back on the commas!

That should have been my New Year's resolution. My sentences are frequently too long; too verbose.

[MaddogK]

I wish you could've been onboard when we went thru shellback initiation. The depravity of that ordeal makes Cdr Honors video look like a sunday church brunch.

A time honored navy tradition still practiced (FAR away from limp-wristed PC eyes).