Would you pay $10 extra for no DRM? - Page 4

tater · 01-30-10, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Webster

i dont know if i would agree with that, i think its the investment in game developement or lack there of thats effected by piracy not the price.

game companies charge THE most they can force customers to pay them even if there was NO piracy but they definately would or might be able to spend those extra profits gained from not having piracy to make better games by hiring more devs and giving larger budgets to the builders.

If they charge less that it cost rto make, they go tits up.

They are a business, they can afford to lose some of the time, game dev and release is a gamble sort of like movies. Overall, however, they either make money or they tank.

They SHOULD charge what the market will bear, IMO. It's their duty to make the most money possible for their investors, andf the gravy for us is that it allows them to gamble on less popular titles---like submarines.

I'm always stunned by anyone who thinks these games, or even add-ons are some sort of money-grubbing rip off. Games have been pretty flat at ~$50 for ages. What a deal!

01-30-10, 11:46 PM

my point was you seamed to imply they would lower prices if piracy was stopped and im saying there is no way the would lower prices no matter what for the very reasons you just brought up.

but if they had more profits they might invest more into the games they produce

Feuer Frei! · 01-31-10, 12:46 AM

Yup, i would......

errr, pay the extra money....

tater · 01-31-10, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster

my point was you seamed to imply they would lower prices if piracy was stopped and im saying there is no way the would lower prices no matter what for the very reasons you just brought up.

but if they had more profits they might invest more into the games they produce

Games are already cheap entertainment, I see no reason to decrease the cost unless they can move enough more units.

Task Force · 01-31-10, 01:50 AM

No, why would I pay for a watered down version of 3...

Sgtmonkeynads · 01-31-10, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

No, why would I pay for a watered down version of 3...

Understatement of the year.
It makes me think their pulling a Dragon age

rigins strategy.
Release game one day, release DLC that could have been in the game originaly the next, and then an expansion ( which is just as big as the original game, therefore must have already been done at the time of release) the next month. All yours for the price of the original game, thus doubleing their profit if you want the "entire" experience.

kptn_kaiserhof · 01-31-10, 12:03 PM

======>>> +1

artao · 01-31-10, 12:36 PM

@ goldorak -- re: Orbiter .... GREAT fricken sim!! Love it!! of course, it could do with better damage dynamics (I've re-enterd the DG IV upside-down and not burned up many a time), but you're absolutely right about the quality of the add-ons. Simply astounding!
Also, thanks for bringing to my awareness Flight Gear and Danger from the Deep ... with the quality of modders here, I'd think we could put together a kick-ass sim with commercial viability, at least within our niche community, plus it would have everything we all want. hmmmm ...

artao · 01-31-10, 12:40 PM

... oh, and HELL NO I won't pay even an extra $0.25 for a game that should already be without DRM ... that's just extortion, plain and simple ...

Rosencrantz · 01-31-10, 12:49 PM

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Tater wrote:

You DO. Any software you buy without DRM has the associated losses to piracy built into the price. Nothing is free. Nothing. Someone pays, or it doesn't happen.

Open source? How on Earth to the devs feed their kids under that model? I'm serious, enlighten me. I'm not a shill for this OSP crap in case you haven't been reading my posts, BTW. I'm not buying because of the possible limitations to me playing (assuming there is ever a fleet boat version since I don't do u-boats).

Hello Tater!

Sorry, but I wasn't talking about having something free, or was I? The question was about extra money, wasn't it? Here in Finland one meal in McD's cost about 6,50 euros. I would not mind pay 10 euros just for that I could eat the very same meal at home. To me UBI's planned DRM model is just the same...

Greetings,
-RC-

Brag · 01-31-10, 01:08 PM

Why should I pay for not having something I don't want!

Mafia Guy "Give me your money, or I'll instal DRM in your computer,"

Dieselglock · 01-31-10, 05:29 PM

I would

Nickolas · 01-31-10, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

Why should I pay for not having something I don't want!

Mafia Guy "Give me your money, or I'll instal DRM in your computer,"

because its a double negatory. paying NOT to have something you do NOT want is the same as paying to have something you want

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jerm138 · 01-31-10, 05:55 PM

That's a loaded question, so I won't answer it.

If I say "No," I could be sending the message that I'm willing to live with the DRM.

If I say "yes," I'm sending a message that I agree with this shenanigans.

Car Dealer: So, you all ready to get into your new car?
Customer: Absolutely!
Car Dealer: Okay then! Let's just fill out the papers... oh... there's one more thing I forgot to offer you...
Customer: Oh? What's that?
Car Dealer: Well, when we came into the office, I asked one of my co-workers to go defecate on your seat and flatten your tires.
Customer:

Car Dealer: But, have I got a deal for you!!

For an extra $200, I'll call him up right now and tell him to leave it alone.
Customer:

Brag · 01-31-10, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickolas

because its a double negatory. paying NOT to have something you do NOT want is the same as paying to have something you want

.

I'm a notwanting notwanter

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01-31-10, 12:46 AM	#48
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Yup, i would...... errr, pay the extra money.... __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

01-31-10, 01:50 AM	#50
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	No, why would I pay for a watered down version of 3... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

01-31-10, 12:36 PM	#53
artao Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 238 Downloads: 144 Uploads: 0	@ goldorak -- re: Orbiter .... GREAT fricken sim!! Love it!! of course, it could do with better damage dynamics (I've re-enterd the DG IV upside-down and not burned up many a time), but you're absolutely right about the quality of the add-ons. Simply astounding! Also, thanks for bringing to my awareness Flight Gear and Danger from the Deep ... with the quality of modders here, I'd think we could put together a kick-ass sim with commercial viability, at least within our niche community, plus it would have everything we all want. hmmmm ... __________________ l8r, artao

01-31-10, 12:40 PM	#54
artao Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 238 Downloads: 144 Uploads: 0	... oh, and HELL NO I won't pay even an extra $0.25 for a game that should already be without DRM ... that's just extortion, plain and simple ... __________________ l8r, artao

01-30-10, 11:46 PM	#47
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	my point was you seamed to imply they would lower prices if piracy was stopped and im saying there is no way the would lower prices no matter what for the very reasons you just brought up. but if they had more profits they might invest more into the games they produce

01-31-10, 12:03 PM	#52
kptn_kaiserhof XO Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 418 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	======>>> +1

01-31-10, 01:08 PM	#56
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Why should I pay for not having something I don't want! Mafia Guy "Give me your money, or I'll instal DRM in your computer," __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-31-10, 05:29 PM	#57
Dieselglock Wolf of the deep Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Arizona,USA Posts: 213 Downloads: 566 Uploads: 0	I would __________________ NYGM STEEL COFFIN V7.5 / Rik007: SH-3 Night surface attack 1.20 / CCOM12 FIFI / ONEALEX 1.53

01-31-10, 05:55 PM	#59
jerm138 Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 332 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	That's a loaded question, so I won't answer it. If I say "No," I could be sending the message that I'm willing to live with the DRM. If I say "yes," I'm sending a message that I agree with this shenanigans. Car Dealer: So, you all ready to get into your new car? Customer: Absolutely! Car Dealer: Okay then! Let's just fill out the papers... oh... there's one more thing I forgot to offer you... Customer: Oh? What's that? Car Dealer: Well, when we came into the office, I asked one of my co-workers to go defecate on your seat and flatten your tires. Customer: Car Dealer: But, have I got a deal for you!! For an extra $200, I'll call him up right now and tell him to leave it alone. Customer: __________________