Lack of aircraft in GWX 2.0

KaleunHassanAziz · 12-26-07, 09:45 AM

Hi, folks!

First of all, thank you to GWX team!!

In my last two patrols starting from Sep. 39

out of Wilhemshaven, I am yet to be jumped

by single aircraft. I passed north of Scapa Flow

to get to the Atlantic.

In my GWX 1.03 installation, I was always attacked

every 5 to 10 minutes real time (same game period /

same game location)

Is this normal?

Everything else seems to work fine.

Could someone help?

Jimbuna · 12-26-07, 09:55 AM

The aircraft are most definitely out there....we put in literally hundreds of RL hours testing the aircraft traffic and I am actually getting pretty sick of their interference in-game on my present patrol heading around the tip of Scotland toward patrol grid AM25.
Try to keep your tc at a maximum only of x128

KaleunHassanAziz · 12-26-07, 10:16 AM

Thank you for the quick reply.

Actually, I love to get jumped by enemy aircrafts.
It somehow makes the game more immersive, I find.

That is why I never go over tc256. It threw against
me plenty of aircrafts in GWX 1.03.

In the last two patrols (GWX2) I stayed at 256, but not
at 128.

Do you think staying at 128 would make a difference?

irish1958 · 12-26-07, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunHassanAziz

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Do you think staying at 128 would make a difference?

Yes, Stay below 128.
If you really want to get pounded by air, try the Bay in 1943-44,

Jimbuna · 12-26-07, 10:58 AM

You'll eventually need one of these to have even a sportung chance

U621 (U-flack)

Brag · 12-26-07, 11:10 AM

From what I've heard, the aircraft at the beginning of the war been reduced to a more realistic level than in GWX 1.

In GWX 1, going through the Fair Isle Passage one always saw aircraft. I am now on my second patrol, seen only one Portuguese plane. I try to stay away from areas patrolled by aircraft.

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-26-07, 11:39 AM

Hi KaleunHassanAziz,

Early in WWII, aircraft assets were stretched to the limit and very few were available for ASW patrols. Also, cooperation between navies and airforces was virtually nonexistent. It isn't until late 1942 that you will begin to see the leading edge of an enormous shift in aircraft action in GWX... reflecting what happened in real life once the allies got it together in an organized way.

A great deal of research and testing went into the distribution of airpower in GWX 2.0.

KaleunHassanAziz · 12-26-07, 01:17 PM

Thank you, Kpt. Lehmann.

The AA was actually at 8x when I got those white specks.

As for the aircraft thing, I think I'll start a new career and

do a couple of patrols out of Lorient in 43 to check enemy

air activity.

I would still like to hear more on this issue from others.

Thanx in advance!

KeptinCranky · 12-26-07, 02:38 PM

I've repeatedly crosses the passage north of Scapa Flow, in both my IXb and my IIa, I did get some planes in early 1940, mostly Ansons, although with the IIa I got mugged by swordfishes, usually 2 or 3, I shot down 5 with no damage to the boat....poor stringbags

They're out there, just cruise along on the surface in good weather and attack the first merchant you encounter with your deckgun, they'll find you

TarJak · 12-26-07, 07:27 PM

There is definately a difference in both the mix and frequency of air attacks early war. As BBW stated these have been the subject of a significant effort to bring them more into line with what was historically correct.

I've played numerous patrols around the northern British Isles in 1939 and have been jumped by a number (less than in 1.03 but probably more historically correct), of aircraft, mostly Ansons and Hudsons. This is one of the reasons Uboat commanders travelled submerged during most daylight hours in the first years of the war unless they were in a position where it was necessary to surface.

Using lower TC 128x or less will give you more frequent chance of seeing air attacks.

KaleunHassanAziz · 12-26-07, 07:52 PM

Thank you very much for the replies.

I'll start a patrol from Lorient in 43 and see what happens.

Thx again!!

Jimbuna · 12-27-07, 09:20 AM

......and don't forget..

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

NiclDoe · 12-27-07, 11:21 AM

when i first saw the title of this thread it shocked me. Also Yu will not be complaining anymore once you make it to 44 or 45.

Checkmate King 2 · 12-29-07, 01:53 AM

You guys sure know your stuff!!!

In my first patrol I played after reading this thread, I did not exceeding a TC of 128 and guess what; the first aircraft my crew have spotted in my last 9 patrols (counting GWX 1.3 and the new GWX 2.0).

I was starting to wonder were they were, also.

Thanks

BulSoldier · 12-29-07, 03:53 AM

I must say i prefer never meeting them.I always evade going in areas with aircraft activity,may be that was the reason not meeting much of them.:hmm:

12-26-07, 09:45 AM	#1
KaleunHassanAziz Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lack of aircraft in GWX 2.0 Hi, folks! First of all, thank you to GWX team!! In my last two patrols starting from Sep. 39 out of Wilhemshaven, I am yet to be jumped by single aircraft. I passed north of Scapa Flow to get to the Atlantic. In my GWX 1.03 installation, I was always attacked every 5 to 10 minutes real time (same game period / same game location) Is this normal? Everything else seems to work fine. Could someone help?

12-26-07, 09:55 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,717 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The aircraft are most definitely out there....we put in literally hundreds of RL hours testing the aircraft traffic and I am actually getting pretty sick of their interference in-game on my present patrol heading around the tip of Scotland toward patrol grid AM25. Try to keep your tc at a maximum only of x128 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-26-07, 10:58 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,717 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You'll eventually need one of these to have even a sportung chance U621 (U-flack) __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-26-07, 11:10 AM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	From what I've heard, the aircraft at the beginning of the war been reduced to a more realistic level than in GWX 1. In GWX 1, going through the Fair Isle Passage one always saw aircraft. I am now on my second patrol, seen only one Portuguese plane. I try to stay away from areas patrolled by aircraft. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

12-26-07, 11:39 AM	#7
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,996 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Hi KaleunHassanAziz, Early in WWII, aircraft assets were stretched to the limit and very few were available for ASW patrols. Also, cooperation between navies and airforces was virtually nonexistent. It isn't until late 1942 that you will begin to see the leading edge of an enormous shift in aircraft action in GWX... reflecting what happened in real life once the allies got it together in an organized way. A great deal of research and testing went into the distribution of airpower in GWX 2.0. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

12-26-07, 10:16 AM	#3
KaleunHassanAziz Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you for the quick reply. Actually, I love to get jumped by enemy aircrafts. It somehow makes the game more immersive, I find. That is why I never go over tc256. It threw against me plenty of aircrafts in GWX 1.03. In the last two patrols (GWX2) I stayed at 256, but not at 128. Do you think staying at 128 would make a difference?

12-26-07, 01:17 PM	#8
KaleunHassanAziz Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you, Kpt. Lehmann. The AA was actually at 8x when I got those white specks. As for the aircraft thing, I think I'll start a new career and do a couple of patrols out of Lorient in 43 to check enemy air activity. I would still like to hear more on this issue from others. Thanx in advance!

12-26-07, 02:38 PM	#9
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I've repeatedly crosses the passage north of Scapa Flow, in both my IXb and my IIa, I did get some planes in early 1940, mostly Ansons, although with the IIa I got mugged by swordfishes, usually 2 or 3, I shot down 5 with no damage to the boat....poor stringbags They're out there, just cruise along on the surface in good weather and attack the first merchant you encounter with your deckgun, they'll find you

12-26-07, 07:27 PM	#10
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	There is definately a difference in both the mix and frequency of air attacks early war. As BBW stated these have been the subject of a significant effort to bring them more into line with what was historically correct. I've played numerous patrols around the northern British Isles in 1939 and have been jumped by a number (less than in 1.03 but probably more historically correct), of aircraft, mostly Ansons and Hudsons. This is one of the reasons Uboat commanders travelled submerged during most daylight hours in the first years of the war unless they were in a position where it was necessary to surface. Using lower TC 128x or less will give you more frequent chance of seeing air attacks.

12-26-07, 07:52 PM	#11
KaleunHassanAziz Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you very much for the replies. I'll start a patrol from Lorient in 43 and see what happens. Thx again!!

12-27-07, 09:20 AM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,717 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	......and don't forget.. BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-27-07, 11:21 AM	#13
NiclDoe Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the Air or hiding from Black Swans Posts: 760 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	when i first saw the title of this thread it shocked me. Also Yu will not be complaining anymore once you make it to 44 or 45. __________________ The Crazy Wolf

12-29-07, 01:53 AM	#14
Checkmate King 2 Helmsman Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 109 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	You guys sure know your stuff!!! In my first patrol I played after reading this thread, I did not exceeding a TC of 128 and guess what; the first aircraft my crew have spotted in my last 9 patrols (counting GWX 1.3 and the new GWX 2.0). I was starting to wonder were they were, also. Thanks

12-29-07, 03:53 AM	#15
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I must say i prefer never meeting them.I always evade going in areas with aircraft activity,may be that was the reason not meeting much of them.:hmm: __________________ By the hour !