[WIP] Dynamic Environment SH5

[misha1967]

Here's another example, and that's with stoianm's exterior color mod enabled:



No fog, no clouds, no nothing, yet not a hint of blue anywhere.

It's driving me nuts. I know what the North Sea looks like, and this ain't it.

[tonschk]

You can try if you want the Real Environmental Mod , Real environmental Mod is not yet perfect but at least dont have the grey sky problem

[Silent Steel]

These ones did the trick for me;

sobers best ever fog V6 SH5
stoianm EnvWeather V1 SH5

Activated in this order after Dynamic Environment.

[bart]

Originally Posted by tonschk

You can try if you want the Real Environmental Mod , Real environmental Mod is not yet perfect but at least dont have the grey sky problem

Just a quick question, I've seen this background thats in this screen shot in summer colours...i.e. green, and here it is with snow on the ground. Does dynamic environment do this depending on the date/season that you happen to be playing at the time?

I haven't seen this yet in the game, just got to october with MMM 0:3 in the soup....

[gap]

Originally Posted by misha1967

with Sober's V6 Fog Mod it improved a lot, but I still have a lot of grey skies during the daytime (sunset and sunrise work just fine), even with the weather reported as no precipitation, no clouds and no fog:

I dunno guys. The one who edited environment colours was stoianm, not me, but I rememeber that when we were working on the mod, sky colors were well balanced. Though, by that time I wasn't playing anymore that much , so I can be wrong.

If you want, you can try to edit manually EnvColors_*.cfg files coming from DynEnv. To understand wich one(s) of these files have to be edited look at this map:



Black: Polar and Polar_luv
Blue: Polar_A and Polar_A_luv
Cyan: Temperate and Temperate_luv
Green: Temperate_A and Temperate_A_luv
Yellow: Tropical and Tropical_luv
Red: Tropical_A and Tropical_A_luv

You can open .cfg files with notepad. Colour parameters are sorted in groups defined with a weather value (0=sunny, 1=overcast 2=sunny or vice versa, I don't remember well) and an angle value (90 should be sun on its zenith, 0 sunset or sunrise, negative values used for sun below the horizon)

The main relevant parameters that you can play with are located at the beginning of each group:

SkyTopColor
SkyBottomColor
SkyAroundSunColor
SkyAroundSunColor2
SkyOppositeSunColor
SkyHazeColor

I think there's no need for explainations on what these parameters do, as their names are self explanatory. Color values have to be entered in hexadecimal color code. For example: CFDBEE00, where the first 6 digits are RGB values; use PhotoShop's color picker or any of the online color converters for fast conversion from decimal to hexadecial. The last 2 digits are used for trasparency, and the original 00 setting should be kept.

There's also a SkyColorMultiplier parameter, but I am not sure how it is used in game. Futhermore there are 3 other parameters:

SkyBottomColorHeight=0.350000
SkyHazeHeightMin=-193.449997
SkyHazeHeightMax=230.000000

again I am not sure wich unit they are using, so I wouldn't suggest you to play with them.

For more details let's wait for stoianm's comments, and if you get out improving our mod, keep us informed on your progress.

Originally Posted by Silent Steel

These ones did the trick for me;

sobers best ever fog V6 SH5
stoianm EnvWeather V1 SH5

Activated in this order after Dynamic Environment.

I am sorry Silent Steel, but after having a look at EnvWeather mod by stoianm I have to say that it is completely pointless to use this mod together with DynEnv: the latter is changing the names of the cfg files used for weather. In other words, the files modified by EnvWeather are no longer in use!
Nevrtheless, weather change rates featured in EnvWeather are also included in DynEnv. Furtermore, Dynamic Environment modifies max and min wind speeds, for having more realistic wind patterns depending on season and climatic zone.

[tonschk]

Originally Posted by bart

Just a quick question, I've seen this background thats in this screen shot in summer colours...i.e. green, and here it is with snow on the ground. Does dynamic environment do this depending on the date/season that you happen to be playing at the time?

I haven't seen this yet in the game, just got to october with MMM 0:3 in the soup....

I am using the same SH5 single mission to test modifications, when I enable Dynamic Envirom the background is green, when I enable Real Enviro the background has snow as when I dont enable any enviro Mods (i.e. = stock SH5 enviro)

[gap]

Originally Posted by bart

Just a quick question, I've seen this background thats in this screen shot in summer colours...i.e. green, and here it is with snow on the ground. Does dynamic environment do this depending on the date/season that you happen to be playing at the time?

I haven't seen this yet in the game, just got to october with MMM 0:3 in the soup....

nice remark, bart,
I was waiting for it: land seasons could be messed up with the use of DynEnv. I was waiting for user's reports before putting my hands on it again. I got 4 questions for you:

- Are you sure that the background featured in tonschk's screenshot is the same you visited?

- Could you locate it in the map I've put in post #575? Giving me the hemisphere and a color (black, blue, cyan, green, etc.) for the sea surrounding that area would be enough.

- Can you provide me with the exact date, or maybe a narrow range, on wich you were there?

- Could you visit again that location in midwinter (preferably december, january or february) and report again?


Has anyone experienced inverted land seasons with the use of Dynamic Environment?

[gap]

Originally Posted by tonschk

I am using the same SH5 single mission to test modifications, when I enable Dynamic Envirom the background is green, when I enable Real Enviro the background has snow as when I dont enable any enviro Mods (i.e. = stock SH5 enviro)

Thank you tonschk,
DynEnv is changing stock season's durations as well as their starting and ending dates, while other mods are using more or less stock values. For exact ranges just have a glance at this table:



I had posted it in this post, together with other informations useful for beta reporting, but is seems that very few have read it... (by the way, stoianm: can you put a link to that post in the first page of the mod?).

Anyway, answering in short to your question, what you are experiencing can be a feature or a bug. In order to unravel the doubts I need you to answer to the questions I posed to bart in my reply to his post?

Anyone else noticed similar issues?

With your answers I'll see what can be done.

[bart]

Originally Posted by tonschk

I am using the same SH5 single mission to test modifications, when I enable Dynamic Envirom the background is green, when I enable Real Enviro the background has snow as when I dont enable any enviro Mods (i.e. = stock SH5 enviro)

In response to gap's questions can you tell me the location of that screen shot in the above photo please?

[bart]

Originally Posted by gap

nice remark, bart,
I was waiting for it: land seasons could be messed up with the use of DynEnv. I was waiting for user's reports before putting my hands on it again. I got 4 questions for you:

- Are you sure that the background featured in tonschk's screenshot is the same you visited?

- Could you locate it in the map I've put in post #575? Giving me the hemisphere and a color (black, blue, cyan, green, etc.) for the sea surrounding that area would be enough.

- Can you provide me with the exact date, or maybe a narrow range, on wich you were there?

- Could you visit again that location in midwinter (preferably december, january or february) and report again?


Has anyone experienced inverted land seasons with the use of Dynamic Environment?

I'll test this once I get a reply to the above post asking where it was

So far with my present soup....MMM 0:3 I've only been to Keil and Whilemsaven.

[tonschk]

Originally Posted by bart

In response to gap's questions can you tell me the location of that screen shot in the above photo please?

That is the single mission (Historical Mission) "Trotz Allem" 13 April 1940, I installed SH5 with german lenguage, I dont know if you install SH5 english version may be all the names of the single missions can be in english or german, is the second single mission from top to bottom of stock single missions list

[bart]

Originally Posted by tonschk

That is the single mission (Historical Mission) "Trotz Allem" 13 April 1940, I installed SH5 with german lenguage, I dont know if you install SH5 english version may be all the names of the single missions can be in english or german, is the second single mission from top to bottom of stock single missions list

Ok, thanks

[gap]

Originally Posted by tonschk

That is the single mission (Historical Mission) "Trotz Allem" 13 April 1940, I installed SH5 with german lenguage, I dont know if you install SH5 english version may be all the names of the single missions can be in english or german, is the second single mission from top to bottom of stock single missions list

Okay, thank you again tonschk,

as you can see from my seasons chart, 13th April is winter for northern polar and subpolar climate (Polar and Polar_A -black and blue- in my colored map). If the mission is located outside those zones, its current season is spring, and it is normal to have a green landscape in it.

Can you please check in game its coordinates? Currently I don't have SH5 installed on my PC, otherwise I would do it myself

[tonschk]

Originally Posted by gap

Okay, thank you again tonschk,

as you can see from my seasons chart, 13th April is winter for northern polar and subpolar climate (Polar and Polar_A -black and blue- in my colored map). If the mission is located outside those zones, its current season is spring, and it is normal to have a green landscape in it.

Can you please check in gae its coordinates? Currently I don't have SH5 installed on my PC, otherwise I would do it myself

May I ask you what is gae coordinates?

[misha1967]

Thanks for all the info, Gap!

For more details let's wait for stoianm's comments, and if you get out improving our mod, keep us informed on your progress.

I'm afraid that I'll have to wait for stoianm's comments, as my modding prowess when it comes to environment files like that leaves a bit to be desired. Think of a monkey with ten thumbs trying to do brain surgery blindfolded