Who Started World War II?

[tomfon]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Don't forget to list the sources the books use, otherwise they are just opinion pieces.

I second that.

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Don't forget to list the sources the books use, otherwise they are just opinion pieces.

Je n'y manquerai pas.

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

@ Sailor Steve : You see ? Impossible discussion. This is MAGIC !

It is the truth that you seek to exclude from the monologue you think is a conversation.

The one who prepared for the war he would make is Hitler and his sock puppet Germany. Germany prepared to attack the Allies. The Allies did not prepare to attack Germany.

Donitz goes into great detail in his book about the preparations for war in the middle to late 1930s, the timetable for such a war (timetables are made by the aggressor, by the way, for those keeping score) and the number of U-boats he thought were necessary for Britain's defeat, years before any war was started (by Germany) and while Germany and Britain were at peace and Hitler slyly singing Kumbaya in your above quoted "disarm your enemy" Kumbaya speech.

The words sincere and Hitler do not EVER belong in the same sentence. His whole career was a litany of seizing power, deception of friends and enemies and persuasion by brute force.

And, Fahrenbahn, you also blindly take every word Hitler says as hearfelt truth and every word said by those who know better as deceptive. There is no conversation here, but lots of comedy. Good thing you have no power or influence over anything. You'd have to learn that you would be stopped no matter what the cost. You couldn't afford to defend yourself against the consolidated resources of the rest of humanity any more than Hitler, who was much more capable, could.

The end would be the same. John F Kennedy said "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty." He was not kidding. He was totally sincere. He echoed the thoughts and wishes of his people. Hitler never did.

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

It is the truth that you seek to exclude from the monologue you think is a conversation.

The one who prepared for the war he would make is Hitler and his sock puppet Germany. Germany prepared to attack the Allies. The Allies did not prepare to attack Germany.

Donitz goes into great detail in his book about the preparations for war in the middle to late 1930s, the timetable for such a war (timetables are made by the aggressor, by the way, for those keeping score) and the number of U-boats he thought were necessary for Britain's defeat, years before any war was started (by Germany) and while Germany and Britain were at peace and Hitler slyly singing Kumbaya in your above quoted "disarm your enemy" Kumbaya speech.

The words sincere and Hitler do not EVER belong in the same sentence. His whole career was a litany of seizing power, deception of friends and enemies and persuasion by brute force.

And, Fahrenbahn, you also blindly take every word Hitler says as hearfelt truth and every word said by those who know better as deceptive. There is no conversation here, but lots of comedy. Good thing you have no power or influence over anything. You'd have to learn that you would be stopped no matter what the cost. You couldn't afford to defend yourself against the consolidated resources of the rest of humanity any more than Hitler, who was much more capable, could.

The end would be the same. John F Kennedy said "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty." He was not kidding. He was totally sincere. He echoed the thoughts and wishes of his people. Hitler never did.

Damn well said!

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

It is the truth that you seek to exclude from the monologue you think is a conversation.

The one who prepared for the war he would make is Hitler and his sock puppet Germany. Germany prepared to attack the Allies. The Allies did not prepare to attack Germany.

That's the contrary.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

The words sincere and Hitler do not EVER belong in the same sentence. His whole career was a litany of seizing power, deception of friends and enemies and persuasion by brute force.

Sums it up quite nicely.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

As I said, we can use Google Translate to translate the documents ourselves. So release them before I get bored.

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Oberon

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Until you prove your mumbo-jumbo ''Hitler was a good guy'' phantasm so are you

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

That's the contrary.

You also share Hitler's complete lack of judgment in sneering at the forces that guaranteed his well-deserved trip to the grave. Those who worship brute force will die by the application of brute force upon them, and beyond their wildest imaginations. The world will not miss them.

That is the story of World War II.

[Cybermat47]

Well said Rockin

[razark]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

That's the contrary.

No it's not!

[Buddahaid]

@Fahnenbohn. I've read enough of this joke. If you are serious about those papers put them up, if not, stop the strip tease. It's boring.

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

@Fahnenbohn. I've read enough of this joke. If you are serious about those papers put them up, if not, stop the strip tease. It's boring.

Buddahaid, at least give him the dignity of misspelling his name "Fahrenbahn" he is because we dub him so.

Actually World War II started because when Hitler was a little bully England and France were too wimpy to break his nose when he occupied the Rhineland in 1936, when he annexed Austria in 1938 and when he overran Czechoslovakia in 1939.

When he knifed Poland later in 1939 he had already built up this tissue paper effigy of himself as invincible. A bloody nose was no longer enough to deter his lust. Only his death would suffice.

Had Britain and France seen him for the filthy rapist he was in 1936 and invaded the Rhineland to take his toys away and remove Hitler from power (hopefully to remove him from life) World War II never would have happened. Instead, because they were prepared to endure any humility to avoid war, Hitler was left free to follow his plans of destruction.

The avoidance of war is not the highest achievement of man. There are wars which must be fought and won completely and decisively. World War II was one such war. It ended justly for victors and defeated.

Steve, I think you may safely close this thread as no proof is coming and he's had time to humiliate himself by its absence. Fahrenbahn ist kaput.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Steve, I think you may safely close this thread as no proof is coming and he's had time to humiliate himself by its absence. Fahrenbahn ist kaput.

He's got a week to produce his evidence.