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View Poll Results: Who do you think will be the next President of the United States?
Obama/Biden 80 56.74%
McCain/Palin 61 43.26%
Voters: 141. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-29-08, 02:03 PM   #496
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The poll is specifically about the jewish vote, it should tell you something. I'd think jewish Americans are more aware of the Israel/Palestine situation than the average American, and yet they don't seem to be affraid of an Obama presidency, rather the opposite. Maybe they don't care about "security" either.
No, this tape was brought to light this week. Your poll is from last week. They might be signing a different tune when the tape is fully disclosed but I'm guessing it will not be disclosed after a few phone calls from some very prominant people are made to the LA Times.
Wanna bet ?
On which part? Jewish Americans feeling secure or the tape getting tucked away until the 5th next week?
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No, this tape was brought to light this week. Your poll is from last week. They might be signing a different tune when the tape is fully disclosed but I'm guessing it will not be disclosed after a few phone calls from some very prominant people are made to the LA Times.
And if this guy is no big deal......what does the Obama campaign and the Obamites at the LA Times have to fear.....right?? That's the big question that should raise some eyebrows. Or maybe they're afraid Biden's going to pitch a hissy fit and the Obama campaign will ban them from interviews like those TV stations. We do know Obama's campaign can't handle tough questions or any scrutiny whatsoever.
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Old 10-29-08, 02:06 PM   #498
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I hope so does this one.

I hear 250k, 250k ok Do I hear 200k, 200k do I hear 200k, ok 150k, do I hear 150k, 150k, 150k going once, going twice. Sold to the stupid people who think im a savior !!!

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People stop listening as soon as they hear "tax cut".... Obama's tax plan is fantasy and it will change 10 different times. It already is changing. Notice now Joe Biden is now No Biden? Obama does not need any more gaffs from the gaff man himself.
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No, this tape was brought to light this week. Your poll is from last week. They might be signing a different tune when the tape is fully disclosed but I'm guessing it will not be disclosed after a few phone calls from some very prominant people are made to the LA Times.
And if this guy is no big deal......what does the Obama campaign and the Obamites at the LA Times have to fear.....right?? That's the big question that should raise some eyebrows. Or maybe they're afraid Biden's going to pitch a hissy fit and the Obama campaign will ban them from interviews like those TV stations. We do know Obama's campaign can't handle tough questions or any scrutiny whatsoever.
There is a reason they will not receive tough questions and any scrutiny. BTW, all valid questions Sea Demon.
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No, I bet the figures will be the same in the exit polls.
Anyway, that thread turned into a "slam Obama bis", the arguments about Khalidi are really ludicrous.
Nope. The questions regarding this man are quite valid. His own double speak on "resistance" is quite troubling. He has made other comments of the same variety that are never truly clarified. Nor does he seem outraged when a Palestinian walks into an open market and detonates a bomb strapped to his waist and kills Israeli citizens including children going about their business. Haven't seen any condemnations from him regarding that at all. Not a peep. And because we are at war against radical Islamist elements, I think this needs to be scrutinized much more heavily. Obama's connection to him is thusly very unfortunate and troubling all the same.
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No, I bet the figures will be the same in the exit polls.
Anyway, that thread turned into a "slam Obama bis", the arguments about Khalidi are really ludicrous.
True, it has turned into a slam Obama bias. Back to the polls, I think they are all over the place and not a very good tool at this juncture to make a early prediction.
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Didn't McCain's institute give half a million dollars to Khalidis organisation?

ah, irrelevant.

EDIT - found it. http://harpers.org/archive/2008/10/hbc-90003779

This is harmful to neither candidate.

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Of course, Khalidi has been involved in Palestinian causes. McCarthy ought to ask John McCain about that, because McCain and Khalidi appear to have some joint interests, and that fact speaks very well of both of them. Indeed, the McCain–Khalidi connections are more substantial than the phony Obama–Khalidi connections McCarthy gussies up for his article. The Republican party’s congressionally funded international-networking organization, the International Republican Institute–long and ably chaired by John McCain and headed by McCain’s close friend, the capable Lorne Craner–has taken an interest in West Bank matters. IRI funded an ambitious project, called the Palestine Center, that Khalidi helped to support. Khalidi served on the Center’s board of directors. The goal of that project, shared by Khalidi and McCain, was the promotion of civic consciousness and engagement and the development of democratic values in the West Bank.
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Hence why I said this earlier Tcocky.

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I wouldn't be surprised if both Republicans and Democrats have had associations with Professor Rashid Khalidi in the past.
These guilt by association ploys haven't appeared to have gained any traction and rightfully so.
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You need a 3rd viable political choice (party).
Quickly!
(Don't think you have enough time for this election though! )
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Hence why I said this earlier Tcocky.

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I wouldn't be surprised if both Republicans and Democrats have had associations with Professor Rashid Khalidi in the past.
These guilt by association ploys haven't appeared to have gained any traction and rightfully so.
I believe it has gotten traction. A pattern is forming and there are concerns. Never the less, I still think Obama will win but not by a landslide. He is not just winning by his policies, most do not know what they are. Heck, one young voter was interviewed and asked what Roe v. Wade was about. He thought it was a case on racism. Obama's campaign was run like a well oiled machine. Most are voting on feeling and most have better feelings for Obama. Personally, I do not think he is as scary as others would like you to believe. Sometimes I believe his associates were only influential in the respect of understanding different views that will help later in life. At any rate, any one of the two makes it is in for a lot of work.
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Are you concerned about Khalid Rashidi, AVG?
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Are you concerned about Khalid Rashidi, AVG?
Yes and no. I do see a pattern with some very staunch activists. Some not so good, Ayers as one of them that went through with his plans. I do not know much about Rashidi at this point. Obama might want to explain why he has flocked with these people. As I stated above, these associations are more of a listen and learn kind of deal as I see it. I would be very surprised if he was in some way making plans other then a run for the Senate and then the presidency. If you think about it, if something really nasty came to light, he would be removed. Not the first time for impeachment. Ask Nixon.
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David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist in an interview yesterday mentioned the number of volunteers expected to be out for Obama on the 4th.

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We've certainly been in contact with that many people. I don't know exactly how many have been mobilized but it's pretty impressive. Whatever happens on Tuesday, Barack said to us from the beginning that he wanted a campaign from the ground up because that's the kind of politics he believes in and that's how change happens and I think that without a shadow of a doubt we have accomplished that.
"pretty impressive" is an understatement if ever there was one.
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How many believe that the election will not be decided on Tuesday? How many believe there will be lawsuits and hanging chads? I'm think no, it will not be decided on Tuesday.
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How many believe that the election will not be decided on Tuesday? How many believe there will be lawsuits and hanging chads? I'm think no, it will not be decided on Tuesday.
Tough to say. Unless it's a total Obamaslide, it could very well go on for months.
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