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Next project: A Martinsyde S.I Scout.
With the coming of the eindekkers the Allies started getting desperate. Still not having a synchronizer and deciding that the deflector plates were not the best idea, the British started mounting the lightweight Lewis gun on the top wings of various sport biplanes. The Martinsyde was one of the first, and one of the worst. Built by the firm of Martin & Handasyde, the Scout was as fast as a Fokker but not particularly nimble. At this stage of the war it didn't matter too much because aerial combat still consisted of a lone fighter finding a lone observation machine and trying to shoot it down. Dogfights were still a few months in the future. One of the problems with the early wing-mounted guns was changing the drum on the Lewis. The pilot had to reach above his head to unlock the drum, remove and replace it. This led to some interesting episodes, the most bizarre being the experience of Lieutenant Louis Strange. Rather than try to describe it, as most sources do, I'll let him tell the story himself. Quote:
The kit is a bare-bones vacuform kit from Classic Planes, made sometime in the late 1980s. Supposedly HR Models made a resin kit, but though I have found reviews and photos of the box, HR doesn't list it on their website and no one seems to have a copy anywhere for sale. If I find one I'll gladly pay the price, but for now this will have to do. There are no metal parts and things like the engine are useless. I do have several rotary engines to choose from, and the body and wings match the drawings pretty well, but it's mostly going to be made of brass wire and plastic strut stock. It should prove interesting, to say the least. ![]()
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Fabricating The Front End.
Vacuform kits can vary. At the top end you have a lovely model with lots of details, metal parts and good instructions. At the bottom you have an outline that looks something like the airplane in question, with no details and nothing to help you build it. You have to dig up spare parts or make your own, and you don't have any real picture of what the details should look like. This one is somewhere in between. It doesn't have any detail parts or any real instructions, but the lines are properly molded into the fuselage and wings, so once it's built you don't have to cut a lot of panel lines. As for instructions, Harleyford's Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War has a very good 3-view drawing, and I've managed to find lots of good photographs. The Martinsyde had an unusual engine setup. Very early on they weren't sure if they could build a bearing strong enough to support the whirling rotary engine from the rear only, so they made a front support, as seen on the Bleriot I built last June. The Martinsyde's engine was almost completely enclosed in the cowling and had a cutout at the front with the support built in. The kit has none of this. It would be easy enough to just cut out the rectangular cutout and glue everything in, but I want the engine and propeller to turn or, failing that, for it at least to look right. Luckily I recently purchased a pair of Nieuport 10 kits, and only the early version has the front support, and each kit comes with all the parts to build all the versions. I scavenged the support and sanded it down to fit, and I grabbed the Gnôme Monosoupape (single-valve) engine and propeller as well. I cut and sanded a rear support from the excess plastic sheet and sanded it to shape. With luck I'll have the fuselage together tomorrow. I've also just purchased another model of the Scout from a different manufacturer. It may be better or it may be the same kit repackaged. Either way it comes with metal parts and maybe better instructions. It will probably be here too late to combine the two, unless I put this one on hold for a week. More likely I'll end up with two of them, or maybe give one to a friend to build. ![]()
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Absolute barebones interior. The cockpit opening is so small that no one will be able to see past the pilot anyway. I did manage to make the engine and propeller turn, even though the engine is on the inside.
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You might want to try one of these at your scale 1/72? someday http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...-Drachen-Build Seems pretty simple compared to the paper models, cheap too.
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^ I enjoyed that link and I think Steve will to
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Not really. I've known about those guys for a very long time now. Their game is a combination card game/boardgame/miniatures game, and the models are representations only - they might as well be counters. They use pre-made 1/144-scale metal diecasts, and I take absolutely no joy in playing with toys I didn't build myself. Their balloons are cute, but wouldn't work with our system.
We did get a backhanded complement from them on one of their websites (or maybe it's in the rules - I don't remember): "This is a game, not a complex flight simulator", which could only refer to M&M/Triplane. It looks like fun, if you like simple boardgames. I don't - not for airplanes anyway.
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They say that their stuff is 1/144th scale, but the balloon would have to be about three feet long, and they don't look that big. The real problem is that they have to be mounted from the bottom, with the stick going into the body of the balloon. Ours have to be able to move up and down the stand, just as the planes do, so a clip is required. Unfortunately that requires a flat surface. A full balloon would stand far enough to the side that the stand would fall over all the time.
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If you use actual ballons and paper mache over the exterior, you can pop the ballons and get lightweight shells. Of course they look like the balloon but something could be figured out.
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I don't think so. For me it's too much work for too little return. Of course that's what the others say about the effort I put into my models, so what do I know?
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What an odd looking duck that one is.
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Pre-war racer, fitted with a gun. But wait, it gets even odder.
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It's been five days since I posted anything, and once again everything has changed. When I saw how bare the kit was I became a little frustrated. Then, out of the blue, someone had a different kit of the same plane for a very good price. I quickly ordered it, and then started asking myself why I had done that. I have the parts to make a good model, and the second one wasn't necessary. Maybe it was the metal parts they advertised. More recently I realized that the plane did change over the year it was in use, and this was an opportunity to do both. So now this was going to be another two-for-one, or twofer as we call them.
Last night I got the tailplanes mounted and today the new one came. It's very different in the way it goes together. I'll be catching it up to the same point, and then finishing them side by side. ![]()
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