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Old 02-21-14, 12:49 PM   #466
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Next project: A Martinsyde S.I Scout.

With the coming of the eindekkers the Allies started getting desperate. Still not having a synchronizer and deciding that the deflector plates were not the best idea, the British started mounting the lightweight Lewis gun on the top wings of various sport biplanes. The Martinsyde was one of the first, and one of the worst. Built by the firm of Martin & Handasyde, the Scout was as fast as a Fokker but not particularly nimble. At this stage of the war it didn't matter too much because aerial combat still consisted of a lone fighter finding a lone observation machine and trying to shoot it down. Dogfights were still a few months in the future.

One of the problems with the early wing-mounted guns was changing the drum on the Lewis. The pilot had to reach above his head to unlock the drum, remove and replace it. This led to some interesting episodes, the most bizarre being the experience of Lieutenant Louis Strange. Rather than try to describe it, as most sources do, I'll let him tell the story himself.
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But on May 10th, 1915, I reached 8,500 ft when going after an Aviatik belonging to von Leutzers Squadron from Lille Aerodrome. We were somewhere over Menin, and the Hun was still gaining height, though we were both near the tops of our respective ceilings. Not all the enemy aircraft were equipped with machine guns in those early days, but the German observer potted at me from the rear cockpit with a parabellum pistol, and as some of his bullets came unpleasantly close, I thought it high time to retaliate, and gave him a drum from my Lewis gun without much effect. But when I wanted to take off the empty drum and replace it with a full one, it seemed to jam, and I was unable to remove it with one hand, I wedged the stick between my knees and tugged at the obstinate thing with both hands. After one or two fruitless efforts, I raised myself up out of my seat in order to get a better grip, and I suppose that my safety belt must have slipped down at a critical moment. Anyhow, my knees loosened their grip on the stick just as the Martinsyde, which was already climbing at it's maximum angle, stalled and flicked over into a spin.

As I was more than half out of the cockpit at the time, the spin threw me clear of the machine, but I still kept both of my hands on the drum of the Lewis gun. Only a few seconds previously I had been cursing because I could not get that drum off, but now I prayed fervently that it would stay on forever. I knew it may come off at any moment, however and as its edge was cutting my fingers badly, I had to get a firmer hold of something more reliable. The first thing I thought of was the top of the center strut, which at the time was behind and below the Lewis gun, but as the machine was now flying upside down, I had sufficient wits left to realize that it was behind and above me, though where it was exactly I could not tell.

Dare I let go of the drum with one hand and make a grab for it? Well there was nothing else for it but to take the risk; I let go and found the strut all right, and then I released my other hand and gripped the strut on the other side. I was then in a more comfortable position, and at least I felt rather more part of my machine than I had done in my original attitude. My chin was rammed against the top plane, beside the gun, while my legs were waving about in empty air. The Martinsyde was upside down in a flat spin, and from my precarious position the only thing I could see was the propeller ( which seemed unpleasantly close to my face), the town of Menin, and the adjacent countryside. Menin and its environs were revolving at an impossible angle - apparently above me - and getting larger with every turn. I began to wonder what sort of spot I was going to crash on.

Then I got angry and cursed myself for a fool for wasting time on such idle speculations, while at the same time it dawned on me that my only chance of righting the machine lay in getting my feet into the cockpit. If I could manage it, I knew that I was bound to fall automatically into the cockpit when the machine came over. I kept on kicking upwards behind me until at last I got first one foot and then the other hooked inside the cockpit. Somehow I got the stick between my legs again and jammed on full aileron and elevator; I do not know exactly what happened then, but somehow the trick was done. The machine came over the right way up, and I fell off the top plane into my seat with a bump.

I grabbed at the stick with both hands and thanked my lucky stars when I got hold of it. Then to my surprise I found myself unable to move it. I suddenly realized I was sitting much lower than usual inside the cockpit; in fact, I was so low down I could not see over the edge at all. On investigation I found that the bump of my fall had sent me right through the seat, with the result I was sitting on the floor of the machine as well as on the controls, which I was jamming. The cushion had fallen out when the machine turned upside down, along with everything else that was loose or had been kicked loose when I was trying to find the stick with my feet. Something had to be done quickly, as although the engine had stopped through lack of petrol when the machine was upside down, it was now roaring away merrily and taking me down in a dive which looked likely to end in the wood to the north of Menin. So I throttled back and braced my shoulders against the top of the fuselage, and my feet against the rudder bar; then I pulled out the broken bits of seat and freed the controls. Luckily I found them all working all right, so that I was able to put up the machines nose and open the throttle again. I rose and cleared the trees on the Menin Road with very little to spare.

I did not trouble to climb anymore, but just flew back along the Menin Road. In my efforts to find the control stick with my feet, I had smashed all the instruments on the dashboard, and as I gazed at the damage, I wondered if I could ever make anyone realize how it had been done. I had only a very hazy idea myself as to what had really happened, but I felt happy to be alive, and thought it simply marvelous that I was still able to control the machine.

I hurried back to Abele, without worrying about the increasing strain on the small of my back or the futile shots that the Germans on the ground were sending after me. I went to bed early that night and slept for a good solid twelve hours; but; Lord, how stiff I was the next day! It took a long time before I was able to move about with any comfort.

During the recent trip to Germany which enabled me to make the acquaintance of von Leutzer, my opposite number, I told him the story of this incident. In reply he stated that one of their observers had returned that day with a report of a victory over a British machine, which went down in a spin into the wood on the north side of Menin. This observer was positive that he had seen the pilot thrown out of the machine, although did not fall clear of it, and on the strength of his evidence the Germans spent half a day vainly searching the wood for the wreckage of the machine. Von Leutzer added that the observer, who was known to be reliable and accurate in his statements, got very much ragged about the business for some time afterwards.
-Louis Arbon Strange, Recollections Of An Airman, 1933
Strange went on to have many more interesting adventures, and the Martinsyde was replaced by better machines.

The kit is a bare-bones vacuform kit from Classic Planes, made sometime in the late 1980s. Supposedly HR Models made a resin kit, but though I have found reviews and photos of the box, HR doesn't list it on their website and no one seems to have a copy anywhere for sale. If I find one I'll gladly pay the price, but for now this will have to do. There are no metal parts and things like the engine are useless. I do have several rotary engines to choose from, and the body and wings match the drawings pretty well, but it's mostly going to be made of brass wire and plastic strut stock. It should prove interesting, to say the least.

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Old 02-23-14, 09:36 PM   #467
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Fabricating The Front End.

Vacuform kits can vary. At the top end you have a lovely model with lots of details, metal parts and good instructions. At the bottom you have an outline that looks something like the airplane in question, with no details and nothing to help you build it. You have to dig up spare parts or make your own, and you don't have any real picture of what the details should look like. This one is somewhere in between. It doesn't have any detail parts or any real instructions, but the lines are properly molded into the fuselage and wings, so once it's built you don't have to cut a lot of panel lines. As for instructions, Harleyford's Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War has a very good 3-view drawing, and I've managed to find lots of good photographs.

The Martinsyde had an unusual engine setup. Very early on they weren't sure if they could build a bearing strong enough to support the whirling rotary engine from the rear only, so they made a front support, as seen on the Bleriot I built last June. The Martinsyde's engine was almost completely enclosed in the cowling and had a cutout at the front with the support built in. The kit has none of this. It would be easy enough to just cut out the rectangular cutout and glue everything in, but I want the engine and propeller to turn or, failing that, for it at least to look right. Luckily I recently purchased a pair of Nieuport 10 kits, and only the early version has the front support, and each kit comes with all the parts to build all the versions. I scavenged the support and sanded it down to fit, and I grabbed the Gnôme Monosoupape (single-valve) engine and propeller as well. I cut and sanded a rear support from the excess plastic sheet and sanded it to shape. With luck I'll have the fuselage together tomorrow. I've also just purchased another model of the Scout from a different manufacturer. It may be better or it may be the same kit repackaged. Either way it comes with metal parts and maybe better instructions. It will probably be here too late to combine the two, unless I put this one on hold for a week. More likely I'll end up with two of them, or maybe give one to a friend to build.

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Old 02-25-14, 07:22 PM   #468
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Absolute barebones interior. The cockpit opening is so small that no one will be able to see past the pilot anyway. I did manage to make the engine and propeller turn, even though the engine is on the inside.

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Old 02-26-14, 12:23 AM   #469
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You might want to try one of these at your scale 1/72? someday http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...-Drachen-Build Seems pretty simple compared to the paper models, cheap too.
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Old 02-26-14, 06:44 AM   #470
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^ I enjoyed that link and I think Steve will to
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Not really. I've known about those guys for a very long time now. Their game is a combination card game/boardgame/miniatures game, and the models are representations only - they might as well be counters. They use pre-made 1/144-scale metal diecasts, and I take absolutely no joy in playing with toys I didn't build myself. Their balloons are cute, but wouldn't work with our system.

We did get a backhanded complement from them on one of their websites (or maybe it's in the rules - I don't remember): "This is a game, not a complex flight simulator", which could only refer to M&M/Triplane. It looks like fun, if you like simple boardgames. I don't - not for airplanes anyway.
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Not really. I've known about those guys for a very long time now. Their game is a combination card game/boardgame/miniatures game, and the models are representations only - they might as well be counters. They use pre-made 1/144-scale metal diecasts, and I take absolutely no joy in playing with toys I didn't build myself. Their balloons are cute, but wouldn't work with our system.

We did get a backhanded complement from them on one of their websites (or maybe it's in the rules - I don't remember): "This is a game, not a complex flight simulator", which could only refer to M&M/Triplane. It looks like fun, if you like simple boardgames. I don't - not for airplanes anyway.
It was just the balloons I was mentioning, after seeing that yours was a cardboard cutout, although nicely drawn.
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It was just the balloons I was mentioning, after seeing that yours was a cardboard cutout, although nicely drawn.
They say that their stuff is 1/144th scale, but the balloon would have to be about three feet long, and they don't look that big. The real problem is that they have to be mounted from the bottom, with the stick going into the body of the balloon. Ours have to be able to move up and down the stand, just as the planes do, so a clip is required. Unfortunately that requires a flat surface. A full balloon would stand far enough to the side that the stand would fall over all the time.
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If you use actual ballons and paper mache over the exterior, you can pop the ballons and get lightweight shells. Of course they look like the balloon but something could be figured out.
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They say that their stuff is 1/144th scale, but the balloon would have to be about three feet long, and they don't look that big. The real problem is that they have to be mounted from the bottom, with the stick going into the body of the balloon. Ours have to be able to move up and down the stand, just as the planes do, so a clip is required. Unfortunately that requires a flat surface. A full balloon would stand far enough to the side that the stand would fall over all the time.
You could run an oversize hole up and down thru the balloon and then put a clip under the balloon around the elevation dowel to hold balloon at correct altitude. These balloons at 12" -16" or so wouldn't look too bad with 1/72nd models. I just thought they looked like they would really go with your "old school" modeling style.
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I don't think so. For me it's too much work for too little return. Of course that's what the others say about the effort I put into my models, so what do I know?
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Fuselage together, lower wing mounted.

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What an odd looking duck that one is.
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Pre-war racer, fitted with a gun. But wait, it gets even odder.
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It's been five days since I posted anything, and once again everything has changed. When I saw how bare the kit was I became a little frustrated. Then, out of the blue, someone had a different kit of the same plane for a very good price. I quickly ordered it, and then started asking myself why I had done that. I have the parts to make a good model, and the second one wasn't necessary. Maybe it was the metal parts they advertised. More recently I realized that the plane did change over the year it was in use, and this was an opportunity to do both. So now this was going to be another two-for-one, or twofer as we call them.

Last night I got the tailplanes mounted and today the new one came. It's very different in the way it goes together. I'll be catching it up to the same point, and then finishing them side by side.

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