Sub Vs Sub Cold war style - Page 3

Amizaur · 08-29-05, 08:22 AM

From http://subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=41165

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Originally Posted by Rip

Keeping in mind that I was not a sonarman so my knowledge on the subject should not be considered definative. As I recall the TA sensitivity was not especially better on the beams but bearing accuracy was. There is a small null zone directly foward and aft of the array but it is very small. Performance in the forward section is also hindered substantially by own ship noise.

Bellman · 08-29-05, 09:56 AM

Ok OK

Rip wrote :-

Quote:

Some of this stuff is not done accurately not only for security reason, but also play balance.

I am going to leave it there.

Fish · 08-29-05, 11:56 AM

There should be no baffle at all when you go at two knts, the TA sinks and own ship is no longer a problem, shouldn't it? :hmm:

SquidB · 08-29-05, 06:50 PM

Dont want to keep on harping back to whats been said, but i think that...(and this is an amatuers prospective).

1) You got your TA out? Then you have no blind spot, regardless of any minor degredation to the 180.

2) If thats the case, when do subs deploy the thing, always? or depending on the situation

3) If the subs we read about are able to get into another subs baffles then that must suggest that the sub being trailed didnt have its TA deployed.

4) As all the above is conjecture feel free to tear it to bits

ReubenJames · 08-30-05, 04:12 AM

I don't understand why TA device should be hanging around outside the submarine main body. What if it hits rocks and get cut off?

SquidB · 08-30-05, 06:19 AM

Well that is a real risk, depending on the speed of the sub the TA droops down (DW models this well) so if your near the bottom you need to be careful.

I dont think DW models the chance of ther TA breaking from contact with the bottom, but you do get a 'wash out' effect when it hits the sea bed.

08-29-05, 11:56 AM	#3
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There should be no baffle at all when you go at two knts, the TA sinks and own ship is no longer a problem, shouldn't it? :hmm:

08-29-05, 06:50 PM	#4
SquidB Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lytham UK Posts: 244 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Dont want to keep on harping back to whats been said, but i think that...(and this is an amatuers prospective). 1) You got your TA out? Then you have no blind spot, regardless of any minor degredation to the 180. 2) If thats the case, when do subs deploy the thing, always? or depending on the situation 3) If the subs we read about are able to get into another subs baffles then that must suggest that the sub being trailed didnt have its TA deployed. 4) As all the above is conjecture feel free to tear it to bits

08-30-05, 04:12 AM	#5
ReubenJames Gunner Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: wishing to live in St Ives, England. Posts: 92 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't understand why TA device should be hanging around outside the submarine main body. What if it hits rocks and get cut off?

08-30-05, 06:19 AM	#6
SquidB Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lytham UK Posts: 244 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Well that is a real risk, depending on the speed of the sub the TA droops down (DW models this well) so if your near the bottom you need to be careful. I dont think DW models the chance of ther TA breaking from contact with the bottom, but you do get a 'wash out' effect when it hits the sea bed.