If this news doesn't get you off fastfood, don't know what will

[eddie]

BEIJING - A U.S. meat supplier said Monday it is laying off most of the workforce of a Chinese subsidiary accused of selling expired beef and chicken to McDonald's, KFC and other major restaurant chains.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-firm-...-off-hundreds/

[Jimbuna]

Shocking but I don't eat in China (well not since 77) and I don't frequent any of those establishments in the UK

Probably get run over by a bus outside my place of work tomorrow

[Wolferz]

If you've ever seen the kitchen in any fast food joint, you wouldn't eat there. EVER!

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

[Skybird]

During my student years I worked in a small hellhole of a kitchen for a Biergarten. Kitchen 4x3m, but the pub and garden for 300 guests... Only a few weeks, but the worst job I ever had, I think. I gave up on that one quite soon. Needless to say, the pay was lousy, too.

Since then I only rarely visit restaurants. I avoid fastfood almost completely, and when I buy food-on-the-hand or go into a restaurant, (happens very rarely only), I only do so when the kitchen is transparent (= you can see inside, some restaurants have discovered that as a marketing argument). Usually, I only buy some Pommes Frites occasionally, every two or three months, and for that I drive to the other side of town, there is a stand where they just make them perfect, and with good oil and not as salty as most do. Well done pommes frites are a delicatesse to me. And if correctly done, they are also not fat. It'S just that most stands offering them, prepare them lousy.

And thankfully I excel in making pizza myself. Every week.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

That way you can see the cook flick boogers on your food.
Based on my experiance working on coolers and freezers and reach ins just because you can see a kitchen dose not mean that it is clean. Some of nastiest are the open ones. What it boils down to is dose the owner care because you can buy your way out of inspectiions. The refrigeration is one of the primary illness points and you cant tell from 20ft away if it is clean and at proper temp.

Here is a tip take look at the vents above the range if this area is clean then it is a good place. Those vents get ignored by many if those are kept most likely a very focused kitchen.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

If you've ever seen the kitchen in any fast food joint, you wouldn't eat there. EVER!

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

I frequent several different fast food places, and every one of their kitchens is visible from the counter where you order. Unless I use the drive-through I see my burgers being made every time.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Unless I use the drive-through I see my burgers being made every time.

Unless they do not wave and shout Hello!, you must not worry.

[Betonov]

Terrorists, bombs, Russians, Ebola, psychopats in back alleys and Americans coming after my oil and now this ??

Forget it, I'm eating out, today I'm going to get a kebab made by an original Albanian and tomorrow I'm going for a wiener schnitzel to that cheap dinner next to the railway station.

And if I die from food poisoning, tough luck. If my mothers chicken didn't put me in the grave by now, even McDonalds chineese beef washed with a romanian CocaCola won't.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I think it is true that most illness in fact comes from home cooked food. A common mistake is to blame what was last eaten. In fact it takes around 12 hours for food born illness to start giving you problems.

So it is really what was consumed several hours ago often that is not the last food eaten. It may be the first to get projectile vomited but not the culprit.

That's what I always thought too.
A recent item on the radio down here though, revealed that it depends on the bacteria, and can be as little as 2 hours.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

That's what I always thought too.
A recent item on the radio down here though, revealed that it depends on the bacteria, and can be as little as 2 hours.

That is true I think in truth it can be hard to trace the real cause. Only when several people get ill and common source found do they know for sure.

You also have stomach flu which is not caused by foul food but gets blamed.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

That is true I think in truth it can be hard to trace the real cause. Only when several people get ill and common source found do they know for sure.

You also have stomach flu which is not caused by foul food but gets blamed.

When I was twelve my dad took us to a Chinese place for dinner. I got sick that night. I'm certain that it was just a common stomach bug, but despite that conviction it was ten years before I could even smell a Chinese dinner without gagging. Even today, while I'll eat Chinese if it's offered, it's not something I'll intentionally buy for myself.

[STEED]

I will never give up Big Barbara's Bacon Butty food van so there.

No connection to China.

[BossMark]

Originally Posted by STEED

I will never give up Big Barbara's Bacon Butty food van so there.

Does BIG Barbara dish out extras?