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eddie 09-23-14 12:52 AM

If this news doesn't get you off fastfood, don't know what will
 
BEIJING - A U.S. meat supplier said Monday it is laying off most of the workforce of a Chinese subsidiary accused of selling expired beef and chicken to McDonald's, KFC and other major restaurant chains.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-firm-...-off-hundreds/

Jimbuna 09-23-14 04:21 AM

Shocking but I don't eat in China (well not since 77) and I don't frequent any of those establishments in the UK :smug:

Probably get run over by a bus outside my place of work tomorrow :doh:

Wolferz 09-23-14 06:27 AM

If you've ever seen the kitchen in any fast food joint, you wouldn't eat there. EVER!:o:huh:

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

Skybird 09-23-14 06:36 AM

During my student years I worked in a small hellhole of a kitchen for a Biergarten. Kitchen 4x3m, but the pub and garden for 300 guests... Only a few weeks, but the worst job I ever had, I think. I gave up on that one quite soon. Needless to say, the pay was lousy, too.

Since then I only rarely visit restaurants. I avoid fastfood almost completely, and when I buy food-on-the-hand or go into a restaurant, (happens very rarely only), I only do so when the kitchen is transparent (= you can see inside, some restaurants have discovered that as a marketing argument). Usually, I only buy some Pommes Frites occasionally, every two or three months, and for that I drive to the other side of town, there is a stand where they just make them perfect, and with good oil and not as salty as most do. Well done pommes frites are a delicatesse to me. And if correctly done, they are also not fat. It'S just that most stands offering them, prepare them lousy.

And thankfully I excel in making pizza myself. :D Every week. :yeah:

Stealhead 09-23-14 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2245649)

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

That way you can see the cook flick boogers on your food.
Based on my experiance working on coolers and freezers and reach ins just because you can see a kitchen dose not mean that it is clean. Some of nastiest are the open ones. What it boils down to is dose the owner care because you can buy your way out of inspectiions. The refrigeration is one of the primary illness points and you cant tell from 20ft away if it is clean and at proper temp.

Here is a tip take look at the vents above the range if this area is clean then it is a good place. Those vents get ignored by many if those are kept most likely a very focused kitchen.

Sailor Steve 09-23-14 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2245649)
If you've ever seen the kitchen in any fast food joint, you wouldn't eat there. EVER!:o:huh:

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

I frequent several different fast food places, and every one of their kitchens is visible from the counter where you order. Unless I use the drive-through I see my burgers being made every time.

Skybird 09-23-14 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2245675)
Unless I use the drive-through I see my burgers being made every time.

Unless they do not wave and shout Hello!, you must not worry. :D

Betonov 09-23-14 10:41 AM

Terrorists, bombs, Russians, Ebola, psychopats in back alleys and Americans coming after my oil and now this ??

Forget it, I'm eating out, today I'm going to get a kebab made by an original Albanian and tomorrow I'm going for a wiener schnitzel to that cheap dinner next to the railway station.

And if I die from food poisoning, tough luck. If my mothers chicken didn't put me in the grave by now, even McDonalds chineese beef washed with a romanian CocaCola won't.

Oberon 09-23-14 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2245687)
Terrorists, bombs, Russians, Ebola, psychopats in back alleys and Americans coming after my oil and now this ??

Forget it, I'm eating out, today I'm going to get a kebab made by an original Albanian and tomorrow I'm going for a wiener schnitzel to that cheap dinner next to the railway station.

And if I die from food poisoning, tough luck. If my mothers chicken didn't put me in the grave by now, even McDonalds chineese beef washed with a romanian CocaCola won't.

:haha: Well said that man. :up:

Betonov 09-23-14 11:31 AM

Don't get me wrong, inspection agencies should be real nazis when it comes to hygene. Expiration dates should be the eleventh comandement and every cook should present himself/herself to every patron*.

But being afraid to go out just because you're affraid that someone else would touch your food is arogant at best, thinking everyone else is incompetent when it comes to handling meals.


*unpractical yes, I just added it for dramatic purpouses

Oberon 09-23-14 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2245701)
Don't get me wrong, inspection agencies should be real nazis when it comes to hygene. Expiration dates should be the eleventh comandement and every cook should present himself/herself to every patron*.

But being afraid to go out just because you're affraid that someone else would touch your food is arogant at best, thinking everyone else is incompetent when it comes to handling meals.


*unpractical yes, I just added it for dramatic purpouses

Also spot on. :yep: Can't really disagree with that.

Sailor Steve 09-23-14 12:02 PM

I would dine in all the time, but I trust the cook here even less than the ones at fast food places. The voices in my head keep telling me he's evil.

Armistead 09-23-14 12:26 PM

I doubt fast food is prepared any less than safer than the normal household, they're probably cleaner than the average home cook these days..:doh:

That being said, I use to do in house work for the factory that makes chicken nuggets.....all the leftover junk and skin all ground up. Heck, see it dumped and shoveled into the bins with people coughing and snorting. Heck, watched a guy one day removing his little mask to hock up snot and spit it right next to where he was working and put his shovel in it. They keep it cold as a frig in the working factory and seems damn near everyone in there has a cold. I guess long as they cook it...but I haven't ate any since that day...

Buddahaid 09-23-14 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2245712)
I would dine in all the time, but I trust the cook here even less than the ones at fast food places. The voices in my head keep telling me he's evil.

I'd say that's a step up from the evil back talk.:dead:

Wolferz 09-23-14 01:26 PM

I used to work on time clocks and hood suppression systems and I've been in KFC kitchens where you could literally skate on the oily floor and I've serviced time clocks where the carcasses of roaches fell out when I removed the cover and I've serviced range hoods that put the unk in Funk. But, then again, I served in the military where you get to eat out in the woods with dirty hands. The only time I ever got sick was when the mess section forgot to wash a lister bag that we were getting our water from. Military mess halls are among the cleanest places I've ever worked or dined in. They even go as far as caulking around every nook and cranny that a roach could hide in.
If you're scared of germs, never ever dine out or eat food that's served luke warm or cold.


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