The truth about Newt Gingrich

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

So lets correct the record on Gingrich:

Neal should start charging for paid political announcements. Fair is fair, use his board to promote your candidate, you should have to pay for the commercial.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Oh here's this idea again. People criticize Newt Gingrich because they FEAR him. Wasn't that what they said about Palin, too? They make fun of her because they FEAR her.

The only thing I feared about Palin was the thought of McCain kicking the bucket and her actually becoming president. I would be embarrassed for America if we showed the world that we think this woman is presidential material. It's not even funny, , it's like a bad Disney movie, soccer mom turns president.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

To be honest, I haven't really been paying attention. I've sort of fallen into 'Who mode'. You know, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." For all the talk, I don't see any of these guys wanting to help anyone but themselves.

What party is this and where can I sign up?


I think the reality of it is; no president knows the true reality of our situation until after he's sworn in. Then he's given the book of secrets, told all the truths that nobody knows, told where we are really heading, and the only way to survive is become a figurehead for the true masters. (Probably the owners of the Federal Reserve, since nobody knows who they really are).



"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe~

[August]

Originally Posted by MothBalls

Neal should start charging for paid political announcements. Fair is fair, use his board to promote your candidate, you should have to pay for the commercial.

Be careful what you wish for. If I were Neal i'd charge you for using Matt Damon to make a political point...

[vienna]

As a BTW, this site is pretty good at separating the wheat from the chaff:

http://www.politifact.com/

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Bubbles , you do not discuss, you have a mind that is so closed and naive it is almost beyond belief.

But hey I am willing, try this for size.
In relation to your statement......
Well as a law student, I can attest ......
as a law student at a school where none of the teachers know anything about law, all the books on law are wrong and 99.999999999999999999999999% of the students are brainless inarticulate idiots who cannot even string a coherent sentence together doesn't that mean you yourself have totally disqualified any view you hold as "a law student"?


Oh bubbles , that is so sad, don't you even remember any of the nonense you have written

Again, tell me why I am wrong, do not try to insult me, somewhere it along the line things got personal for you.I am not close minded, offer something valid instead insulting me in an attempt to mask your inability to counter what I say with sarcasm and your poor attempt at humor.Really, it never fails, you exaggerate about past comments I made concerning professors and texts providing inaccurate information etc.They are not always wrong but it is a well known fact that majority of academia is liberal and fail to remain objective in lieu of perpetuating the left wing perspective.I encountered this most often in undergrad, such as in history courses.Law School, well I have had a few radicals thus far but most are fair.

Tribes, I remember making statements supporting Beck but I am not a fan.However, at times he makes valid points and has done a service to the country.Beck lead to Van Jones(dangerous guy) resignation from the Obama Admin as well as Mao loving Anita Dunn.I despise Ed Schultz and Keith Olberman, but at times they are correct and I agree(ever defended them before against some right wing friends), definitely does not make me a fan.

[AVGWarhawk]

I watched American Idol during the last debates.

I'm with Steve...."Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." Nothing changes in DC except the last name of the person residing at PA Ave. Nothing gets done. Spend. Travel the world. Play golf. Cut wood on your ranch. Ride ponies on your ranch. Get a little something in the Oval Office. Quit. Get a book deal. Retire denying anything of any significance occurred during your term. Go to a new library dedicated to you. Cut the ribbon. Next TV appearance for you will be in a casket. Life moves on.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

There is no universal "truth" in world. Everyone on this mud ball we proudly call Earth (among other names) has their invidual point of view. There will always be someone who disagrees with "truth" someone else attempts to shovel down their throats.

What Bubblehead1980 have posted in this thread is not an "truth" its merely his opinion.

That kind of relativism is crap, but does not surprise me considering you are in Europe.Sure, there is a gray area often but there is a truth out there.For example, Keynesian Economics does not work, never has and never will yet there are people who defy that truth and still advocate that garbage .Fact aka the truth, Gingrich was later cleared by the IRS and was basically forced out by a Democratic lead witch hunt.Opinion? no, we are are far enough removed from those years and the info is out there, just do some reading and consider the times to put things in context.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I watched American Idol during the last debates.

I'm with Steve...."Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." Nothing changes in DC except the last name of the person residing at PA Ave. Nothing gets done. Spend. Travel the world. Play golf. Cut wood on your ranch. Ride ponies on your ranch. Get a little something in the Oval Office. Quit. Get a book deal. Retire denying anything of any significance occurred during your term. Go to a new library dedicated to you. Cut the ribbon. Next TV appearance for you will be in a casket. Life moves on.

Attitudes like that are how we end up in the situation we are in, people just give up, never understood that.Truth is, as a voter you are never going to get just what you want but you can stay informed and not by such a cynic.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

That kind of relativism is crap, but does not surprise me considering you are in Europe.

Ohhhhhh boy

Fact: your first post was about 1/3 historical figures and past events, 1/3 personal justification/interpretation of said events, and 1/3 conjecture about possible future events based on completely theoretical summer oil prices and your own previous justifications.

1/3 facts and 2/3 conjecture does not make for "truth".

[Takeda Shingen]

Wow, this one went downhill pretty fast. I was going to reply to Halpo now that I am home from work, but I don't want to get in the way of Bubblehead trashing kraznyi for being European and placing all of America's problems at the feet of AVG (who, by the way, is absolutely correct). And to think that I was about to compliment you for your improved tone and rhetoric, Bubblehead. Boy would I have looked silly.

Halpo, the graph is just from Wikipedia's 'Reaganomics' (a crappy term, to be honest) page. It was quick and handy. Also, if you want to paste an image, right click, select copy, then right click the forum text box and select paste where you want it. So much easier than it used to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu...71_to_2001.png

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

That kind of relativism is crap, but does not surprise me considering you are in Europe.Sure, there is a gray area often but there is a truth out there.For example, Keynesian Economics does not work, never has and never will yet there are people who defy that truth and still advocate that garbage .Fact aka the truth, Gingrich was later cleared by the IRS and was basically forced out by a Democratic lead witch hunt.Opinion? no, we are are far enough removed from those years and the info is out there, just do some reading and consider the times to put things in context.

Bubbles, you were first one to come here with really big shovel and bulk carrier. You opted in your original post to just throw to us your version of "truth" without providing references on where you are basing your assesment of "truth". I have been on this forum relatively short time but I have learned this: when somebody comes here telling people about "facts" and what is "truth" in American politics its best to remember to take your own salt mountain with you to that "discussion".

Until you prove to me otherwise I'm going to assume that that bulk carrier is loaded with political brown stuff.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Wow, this one went downhill pretty fast. I was going to reply to Halpo now that I am home from work, but I don't want to get in the way of Bubblehead trashing kraznyi for being European and placing all of America's problems at the feet of AVG (who, by the way, is absolutely correct). And to think that I was about to compliment you for your improved tone and rhetoric, Bubblehead. Boy would I have looked silly.

I know, I honestly didn't even want to jump in since for a bit it looked like just discussion and nitpicking around definitions of conservatism and the Reagan legacy, but IMO those two posts were just unfounded and rude

There's better ways to disagree than just throwing all possible critiques back at others with something like "you can't handle the truth!" and "it's your own fault for being such a cynic". And they weren't even directed at, you know, Tribesman or something who would've actually been asking for that and even happy to get it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Attitudes like that are how we end up in the situation we are in, people just give up, never understood that.Truth is, as a voter you are never going to get just what you want but you can stay informed and not by such a cynic.

Bubble, I voted in every election since 1984. I'm informed. Guess what...we are in the same boat. Bubble, talk all day about what you want. Feel this and that about this and that. At the end of the day it does not amount to a hill of beans. That is the 'truth'. Nothing changes. It is the same old song and dance. Raise taxes, play the numbers game, pretend you have a handle on the entire world and go play golf. What type of attitude would you like everyone to have? There is no results....ever. Just more nonsense. I have plenty of years dealing with the rubbish to justify my cynicism. It does not happen over night. It comes from disingenuous nonsense on Capital Hill and PA Ave. Oh boy, the people have spoken in the last election. Congress is full of Repubs now. They are going to show you. Just like the Contract with America. Still..nothing is done. Staying informed only grows tiresome. Believing that somehow taxes will be reduced is nothing but a pipe dream. Washington..."Read my lips. No new taxes." We will just raise the old ones.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Bubble, I voted in every election since 1984. I'm informed. Guess what...we are in the same boat. Bubble, talk all day about what you want. Feel this and that about this and that. At the end of the day it does not amount to a hill of beans. That is the 'truth'. Nothing changes. It is the same old song and dance. Raise taxes, play the numbers game, pretend you have a handle on the entire world and go play golf. What type of attitude would you like everyone to have? There is no results....ever. Just more nonsense. I have plenty of years dealing with the rubbish to justify my cynicism. It does not happen over night. It comes from disingenuous nonsense on Capital Hill and PA Ave. Oh boy, the people have spoken in the last election. Congress is full of Repubs now. They are going to show you. Just like the Contract with America. Still..nothing is done. Staying informed only grows tiresome. Believing that somehow taxes will be reduced is nothing but a pipe dream. Washington..."Read my lips. No new taxes." We will just raise the old ones.

As I get older, I'm realizing more and more that any real change in the political system is just a pipe dream. There's too much money and influence entrenched in Washington, and people will lie, cheat, scheme and spin in order to maintain their hold on power. It doesn't matter what side you're on, they're both as crooked as the other. Nothing's going to change it.

They play their silly marketing games, and people lap it up and regurgitate it back. It's all a marketing and PR spin game to them.

Again, tell me why I am wrong, do not try to insult me, somewhere it along the line things got personal for you.

Because you have zero credibility and are unable to distinguish fact from fiction.
You are ranting like a crazed fan of a candidate in exactly the same way as you were ranting like a crazed fan about another candidate in exactly the same way you ranted like a crazed fan about a total fruitloop non candidate, while each time going on about how you knew the truth and how all these conspiracies were going on and no one else knew anything.
If you cannot see why you are not right then you are simply proving beyond question that you do have the closed mind and are naive


Mothballs

Neal should start charging for paid political announcements. Fair is fair, use his board to promote your candidate, you should have to pay for the commercial.

But that does raise a question, who exactly is Bubbles promoting, is it Romney or Obama?

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Because you have zero credibility and are unable to distinguish fact from fiction.
You are ranting like a crazed fan of a candidate in exactly the same way as you were ranting like a crazed fan about another candidate in exactly the same way you ranted like a crazed fan about a total fruitloop non candidate, while each time going on about how you knew the truth and how all these conspiracies were going on and no one else knew anything.
If you cannot see why you are not right then you are simply proving beyond question that you do have the closed mind and are naive


Mothballs

But that does raise a question, who exactly is Bubbles promoting, is it Romney or Obama?

And you have credibility? LOL you are known for being a troll.I remember when you used to attack other members, now it's me and it is fine because well it is an internet forum and until the day I see you actually say no bubblehead, this is why you are incorrect in lieu of trying to trash me, well you will just be a troll.