The truth about Newt Gingrich

Look forward to the day you can discuss and not try to insult

Bubbles , you do not discuss, you have a mind that is so closed and naive it is almost beyond belief.

But hey I am willing, try this for size.
In relation to your statement......
Well as a law student, I can attest ......
as a law student at a school where none of the teachers know anything about law, all the books on law are wrong and 99.999999999999999999999999% of the students are brainless inarticulate idiots who cannot even string a coherent sentence together doesn't that mean you yourself have totally disqualified any view you hold as "a law student"?

Hmm no, not a fan of Beck and never been one on conspiracy.

Oh bubbles , that is so sad, don't you even remember any of the nonense you have written

Face it Bubblehead - there are those who can't fathom anyone not supporting the Great Leader

There are those on both extremes who cannot fathom much at all.

Facts are not things the left likes. Its also not something the "moderate" (read rino) team R folks like either.

Facts are not something extremists like, need I remind you that you got some facts very wrong today in your political contributions?

Course - the left FEARS Newt - absolutely NO ONE can make a case that Obama could beat Newt in a debate of ideas. No one can make the case that Obama can run on his record...

CAPS LOCK strikes again
Hold on, your recent arguement was that "the left" feared the black man, are you simply making up rubbish as you go along?

[Blood_splat]

People still believe in our bought and paid for Democracy.

[Sailor Steve]

And once again the extremists who claim they represent the center go to extremes to justify their guy over the other guy. You don't get it. It's obvious that you don't really care about anything other than getting one of your own into office. The only ones you seem to be fooling are yourselves.

Steve, on a local perspective as you are pretty much central station, what have been the recent local takes on a LDS polling well in a primary in an area dominated by evangelicals?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Steve, on a local perspective as you are pretty much central station, what have been the recent local takes on a LDS polling well in a primary in an area dominated by evangelicals?

To be honest, I haven't really been paying attention. I've sort of fallen into 'Who mode'. You know, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." For all the talk, I don't see any of these guys wanting to help anyone but themselves.

Also, I live in the middle of Romneyland, so the majority here are happy about it. I'll admit I'm shallow. I don't like Romney because he created so much hype over the Olympics here, and I was one of the few who had a bad experience. It probably had nothing to do with him, but as I said, I'm shallow.

[Type941]

I just read Wikipedia on WIllard Mitt Romney.

Fun read. He's an accomplished guy, no denying.

To me what's fun is that one of Republican potential nominees is basically a Lloyd Blankfein/Dick Fuld/Jamie Diamon kind of guy, no mistake. Even better, he's smarter PE VC kinda guy. Republicans can do only better if their pick would've been someone like LTCM's John Meriwether or even John Paulson. I mean you can't be more funny. I can't even figure out what republicans like and what they don't like - do they like the idea of capitalism or not? Because Romney is perfect example of capitalism at its maximum. So why is he now called liberal and bad? How's Gingrich who's record arguably is much less distinguished by virtue of being a politician all his life, is any better?...

I don't know, i think republicans should embracy the HUGELY successful Romney to run USA Inc. I think this country could us a little more business sense and a little less politics. Debt is way too much and I think Mitt will actualy KNOW what to do in ballpark terms to get things reasonable (i.e. he'll probably cut the government a lot and eliminate waste, his whole life he's done that and successfully). He's so rich he doesn't need to make money anymore, he'll be after legacy, greatness etc and that may benefit US, perhaps (one can hope). But he is obvioulsy way out of touch in terms of what money's worth to him and to regular people . i say make fun of that, not shy of it. They can't dig much on the guy after all these weeks - what, he has a photo holding dollar bills? Come on.

On balance if he makes US profitable I think it's good. I think Dems will actually work with Romney as opposed to NG who they despise.

that's my take on the matters from abroad. Looks like gonna be a fun election to watch...


only downside - a republican in white house = middle east war.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Type941

only downside - a republican in white house = middle east war.

I have to say right here, they just don't do wars like they used to any more

If this guy knows what he is doing, he will understand that wars in the middle east are not profitable

It is too easy to equate the current wars in the middle easy with the classic colonialist and for profit wars of Cortes and the East India Company.

The Aztec empire was conquered on a "shoestring budget", and yet it fueled the Spanish economy for years.

We all know that Net income = Gross profit – Total operating expenses

Afghanistan has a GDP of 11 billion, the US millitary spends 44 billion a year in Afghanistan(not counting other NATO countries, nor does it count the aid the USA gives to Afghanistan.)

sources: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf
http://www.google.ca/publicdata/expl...of+afghanistan

if the US wants to make money, waging war in the middle east is not the way to do it, it is just not profitable

[August]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

We all know that Net income = Gross profit ***8211; Total operating expenses

Afghanistan has a GDP of 11 billion, the US millitary spends 44 billion a year in Afghanistan(not counting other NATO countries, nor does it count the aid the USA gives to Afghanistan.)

if the US wants to make money, waging war in the middle east is not the way to do it, it is just not profitable

A false premise. We didn't go to Afghanistan, or Iraq for that matter, to make a profit.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Type941

only downside - a republican in white house = middle east war.

Not if that republican is Ron Paul!

(as if that would ever happen though - but it is worth pointing out that not all republicans and certainly far from all US conservatives are pro-war. Likewise those democrats are far from doves themselves...)

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Likewise those democrats are far from doves themselves...)

Indeed. Obama's foreign policy has not been much different than W's. And that is a bad thing.

[Type941]

US needs to have presence in the region to control it and noone wants it without US paying a lot or by military. simple as that. US can survive just FINE at home but its got so much business interests abroad that it basically needs to be global to protect it, otherwise the Chinese and Russians will start to play.

I highly recommend this book to anyone interested in Geopolitics. I think they nailed very well why US does what it does and I have nothing more to add.



Put it another way - it DOESN'T matter who comes to power in US 2012 elections - country is efficient enough to run by itself. Being a European, US is a country I'd bank on any day compared to the socialism in Europe, Nationalism in Russia and that hybrid of capitalism/theft economy China has going on.

I think US fundamentally has things right, even though its population is poor overall and politicians are just talking heads. Americans deep down seem to have a sort of compass that's pointing correctly. I'm afraid in Europe it's messed up too much lately (well, not in Nordics and Germany but the rest) and Russia is fast sliding to nationalism - Let's hope Putin holds them back (I kid you not, he's way more liberal than views of average russians are).

[tater]

Newt's speech on losing Fl was the best of the night. When he's good, he's good. The end though... quoting the Declaration is fine, but unlike the founders, he's not really pledging his life, sorry. Had they lost, they'd have been executed for treason. I'd call out that kind of hyperbole in Obama or Romney, too.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Bubbles , you do not discuss, you have a mind that is so closed and naive it is almost beyond belief.

But hey I am willing, try this for size.
In relation to your statement......
Well as a law student, I can attest ......
as a law student at a school where none of the teachers know anything about law, all the books on law are wrong and 99.999999999999999999999999% of the students are brainless inarticulate idiots who cannot even string a coherent sentence together doesn't that mean you yourself have totally disqualified any view you hold as "a law student"?


Oh bubbles , that is so sad, don't you even remember any of the nonense you have written

Again, tell me why I am wrong, do not try to insult me, somewhere it along the line things got personal for you.I am not close minded, offer something valid instead insulting me in an attempt to mask your inability to counter what I say with sarcasm and your poor attempt at humor.Really, it never fails, you exaggerate about past comments I made concerning professors and texts providing inaccurate information etc.They are not always wrong but it is a well known fact that majority of academia is liberal and fail to remain objective in lieu of perpetuating the left wing perspective.I encountered this most often in undergrad, such as in history courses.Law School, well I have had a few radicals thus far but most are fair.

Tribes, I remember making statements supporting Beck but I am not a fan.However, at times he makes valid points and has done a service to the country.Beck lead to Van Jones(dangerous guy) resignation from the Obama Admin as well as Mao loving Anita Dunn.I despise Ed Schultz and Keith Olberman, but at times they are correct and I agree(ever defended them before against some right wing friends), definitely does not make me a fan.

[AVGWarhawk]

I watched American Idol during the last debates.

I'm with Steve...."Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." Nothing changes in DC except the last name of the person residing at PA Ave. Nothing gets done. Spend. Travel the world. Play golf. Cut wood on your ranch. Ride ponies on your ranch. Get a little something in the Oval Office. Quit. Get a book deal. Retire denying anything of any significance occurred during your term. Go to a new library dedicated to you. Cut the ribbon. Next TV appearance for you will be in a casket. Life moves on.