Schwarzenegger fathered a child with longtime member of household staff

[vienna]

Here in California (where, incidentally almost all of the entertainment news media is headquartered, hence the extreme media interest) the Arnold situation has become a bit of a "Kharma" situation. Aside from totally trashing the state's economy even more than the the Democratic-controlled State Assembly and Senate could have managed on its own, aside from trashing the California state Republican Party even more than they could on their own, he perpetrated an unusally cynical, cruel and appalingly crass final act when he left the Goernor's office: He commuted the 16 Year manslaughter sentence of the son of a political crony to 7 years literally in his final minutes as Governor as he was walking out the office door. The California constitution mandates that the families of the victims of a fatal crime be notifed and be given the opportunity to comment or object prior to the sentence commutation, parole or pardon of the criminal. Arnold did not do this and the victim's family is livid about the commutation.

From Wikipedia:

Núñez's son, Esteban was convicted of second-degree manslaughter pursuant to a guilty plea in connection with the fatal stabbing of 22-year-old college student Luis Santos during a drunken brawl on San Diego State University campus in October 2008, after being refused entrance to a fraternity party. Three other men were also beaten and stabbed in the incident but survived. Esteban and his three alleged accomplices initially entered not guiltypleas; Esteban and his friend Ryan Jett pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter, and the other two accomplices pleaded to lesser charges, after jury selection started in early May 2010. He was sentenced on June 25, 2010 to 16 years in prison for the death of Santos. He was also sentenced under two additional felony counts. On January 2, 2011, outgoing Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger commuted the sentence of Esteban Núñez, reducing it from 16 years to seven years, stating that he felt the 16-year sentence was "excessive" given that Esteban was not "the actual killer" and Santos' fatal wound was supposedly inflicted not by Núñez himself but by his accomplice Ryan Jett...

Schwarzenenegger responded to the controversy stating, "Well hellooooo. I mean, of course you help a friend."...

Not stated in the Wkikpedia article is the fact Estaban did stab two other other persons [serious, non-fatal] in the commission of his crimes. Also, Arnold refused to commute the sentences of of other prisoners of equal or lesser involvment in similar crimes. I don't know how it is in other places, but here in California, if you participate in a crminal activity resulting in death, even if you did not directly kill the victim(s), you are liable as if you had actually commited the act itself.

Arnold may seem popular to the outside world, but here he is decidedly not Mr. Popularity. So all this thats happening to him may be a case of "What goes around..."

[FIREWALL]

[QUOTE=Wolfehunter;1665859]I'm not picking sides in this but we weren't there. Who knows maybe the maid is a hot chick and she teased him.





Better look at tthe links pictures of her. She's a pig. What happened to the " barf " emoticon.

[vienna]

"But she has a wonderful personality..."

Speculation in Hollywood is Arnold had the affair because the housekeeper was around all the time so it was convenient for him and required no effort. Kind of reminds me of the old joke about a guy who was so lazy that when he decided to start a family, he married a woman who was already pregnant...

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by August

I remember folks expressing the same degree of surprise with regards to Liberace.



Many people actually thought he dressed this way just to get women.

Gay Dracula ?

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Better look at tthe links pictures of her. She's a pig. What happened to the " barf " emoticon.

Ya I saw the picture of her the next day.. I don't know what he was thinking... Maybe few to many drinks of the good stuff makes anyone look better.

[vienna]

There are no ugly women at last call...

[Onkel Neal]

Gawd, Arnold is insanely stupid. WTH is wrong with this man? Oh, I just answered my own question.


Wife above, and Andre the Giant below

[Platapus]

Although I despise what he did, I have to admit that that is not the most flattering picture of the other woman. I have seen other pictures and she is not that bad looking.

But when you are a piece of S*&T dishonourable scumbag sorry excuse for a man cheater loser, looks may not be everything.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Gawd, Arnold is insanely stupid. WTH is wrong with this man? Oh, I just answered my own question.

Wife above, and Andre the Giant below

Good question Neal. All I can do is paraphrase Richard Dawson from The Running Man.

[Bakkels]

Aaaah and of all the pictures of his wife, of course they take the one where she's pregnant. I don't know, that just makes me a little sick.
Yeah cheating is wrong, yeah he's an ass fro doing it. And for many more reasons too.
But just say it. I just hate this kind of tabloid-like presentation. You take the most horrible picture you can find of his mistress, and you take the most innocent-looking one from his wife. (A picture that's 14 years old btw) I'm anything but a Schwarzenegger fan but I don't know, the way this is presented pisses me off somehow.
Again, he's a jerk for what he did, but lynching is still quite popular in some places it seems.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bakkels

Again, he's a jerk for what he did, but lynching is still quite popular in some places it seems.

Agree. Though I dislike it myself I must admit that watching famous people fall from grace is a popular American pastime.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

Agree. Though I dislike it myself I must admit that watching famous people fall from grace is a popular American pastime.

It is understandable for it is the people who choose to make them famous

What the people giveth, the people can taketh away.

Celebrities need to understand that they can't pick and choose which publicity they have. They have no problems seeking publicity when it suits them, well, they then should accept the publicity when it does not suit them

[Bakkels]

Originally Posted by Platapus

They have no problems seeking publicity when it suits them, well, they then should accept the publicity when it does not suit them

I think that's a little shortsighted. (And I always feel there's some kind of envy involved in this argument)
I know defending politicians is will raise some eyebrows here and there, but consider this: first of all, if you're going into politics, you have no choice. It's the people who want to see you on tv, want to know about your family, your life and all that. It's part of the job, and I don't think most of them like publicity that much. It's just part of the job. And there's some perverted demand from a part of the public to know about their personal lives.

Second, it's this lynching thing that really bugs me. The first thing a public figure does ANYTHING wrong, there's a huge mob of people that immediately take the opportunity to burn him to the ground. It's got jealousy written all over it.
Cheating is wrong. Hell, I can even call Arnold wrong on a whole bunch of things, but is it somehow worse when he does it than when your next-door neighbor does it? He somehow deserves all of this cr*p because he is a public figure? That feels wrong to me somehow.

[Onkel Neal]

He was the Gov of a state. It's not the same as my neighbor.

It's like when a cop breaks the law, or a preacher sins. Much bigger fall.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Bakkels

...if you're going into politics, you have no choice. It's the people who want to see you on tv, want to know about your family, your life and all that. It's part of the job, and I don't think most of them like publicity that much.

Unless it is publicity that gets then elected and then they are all in favour of it.

but is it somehow worse when he does it than when your next-door neighbor does it?

Nope, if my next door neighbour cheats, then he or she is just as dishonourable as a celebrity. I will have equally no respect for them.

I just believe in balance in the world. If you want publicity for the good things, you have to accept the publicity for the bad things.

Me? I am a very private person. I shun publicity. So when I do good things, I get no publicity, when I do bad things I don't get publicity. Balance. It works out well because people really don't care about me.

I just think it is hypocritical to accept publicity when it is convenient and then to insist on privacy when it is not convenient.

This is why celebrities are paid the big bucks, their lives are public.