Patch No. 2 not to be developed...no more Support? - Page 3

Decoman · 03-20-10, 03:16 PM

Sounds like a good idea. Personally I would simply reword the topic header.

Herodotus · 03-20-10, 03:18 PM

Lock this thread...the title alone is pure trolling

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Adriatico · 03-20-10, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnodayak

Let this bastard called SH5 die of natural causes.

It could die of unnatural cause - called DRM.

It causes dad born babies... online singleplyer mutants.

Athlonic · 03-20-10, 04:30 PM

Where's the link to the 1.2 patch ?

R-T-B · 03-20-10, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

Why is everyone so excited about it dying? Don't they realize that it's death will probably equal the end of the series?

That, and it DOES have a lot of potential. This is by far the most moddable engine we've ever seen. I'll eat my shoes if any of you aren't awe-struck by what we're going to accomplish in just a couple of months.

letterboy1 · 03-20-10, 04:56 PM

Both SH3 and SH4 were released in somewhat similar shapes and were given several patches.

SH3 which many are calling "better" is only in the shape that it's in because 1) it got initial support from devs in the form of several patches and, 2) the mod developers, especially the GWX team, have been at it for several years. If anything, the history of Silent Hunter since Ubi Romania took over tells us that we can expect great things from SH5.

The haters make me laugh. When SH5 is patched and overflowing with awesome mods, the same post-tards will show up here with questions like, "I've been away from SH5 for a while, what are the best super mods?"

Safe-Keeper · 03-20-10, 05:03 PM

To which we'll answer, SH5? Nah, that died back in March of 2010, where have you been?

For then to go back to our supermods, laughing the whole way.

Ragtag · 03-20-10, 05:07 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a second patch. That the game was on 5th to 10th on the charts for a week means absolutely nothing. Being a reviewer i know that a game with this budget only needs to sell about 20.000-25.000 units to cover most of the costs. Keep in mind that this engine is old and only upgraded visually. What we have is the exact same engine as SH3 and SH4. Looking through the code establish this fact. There are tons of references to SH3 and SH4.

A couple of things comes to mind with this game. First of all is that they said beforehand that it would be way more moddable than ever and the "finished" released product clearly says they relied on it.
I could easily be considered a fanboy of Silent hunter by friends, and i really want to love it. But in all fairness, this game is by far the most incomplete and buggy game i've ever seen released to the public to buy.
The moral and level up system is a total mess. And this is one of the new major game features with SH5.
Don't give me the not needed or i don't like it anyways BS. The point is that it's what it's ment to be by the dev team. They wanted to do something new and different with the RPG system. And it would be kinda cool if it worked properly.
Important features are missing and left out. A load of commands left out. If you want it you have to rely on modders or learn to mod yourself. This is just not tolerable and i'm quite astonished that most of the gamers here just seem to accept it and thanks the modders. Are we really at the point where this should be accepted?
Is it we, the gamers, that should finish a game?
I think not!

Second issue is Ubisofts will to spit more money into projects after release. We can agree that Ubisoft isn't exactly well known to support games after release...well, if it doesn't sell millions that is. But even then they are cheap. The first Assassins creed got one patch i believe...ONE!
God knows how well it sold.
I have no doubts that the dev team wants to support the game but let's be honest here. Do you think Ubisoft spits more money into SH5?
personally i think no... there might be a second patch but i believe they will put the money into new projects. There are rumours already that Ubisoft Romania is already working on another project.
If we are lucky we will see a second patch but i don't count on it.
I challenge Ubisoft to surprise me.

Adriatico · 03-20-10, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letterboy1

Both SH3 and SH4 were released in somewhat similar shapes and were given several patches.

The haters make me laugh..."

Not really... both SH3 and SH4 were relased as normal singleplayer games... accepted and supported by wide community.

Where did you find "haters" ?
This is Subsim fans community... i.e. Silent Hunter fans community.

***
If you are treated as a client and partner, you would wait for your patch for 12 months or 24 months.
If you are treated as a criminal by Ubi... you won't waste a week in that relation.

karamazovnew · 03-20-10, 05:34 PM

There's gotta be a patch. It's actually annoying they didn't patch it ALREADY. "Let's see how the game sells before we fix it" is a very good reason to return the game to the shops. The game is broken. And the fact that SH is in the top charts just points out what a huge mistake it was to not give this series a fair chance.

And really guys (Ubi), do you actually believe we're gonna buy your NEXT title if there's any chance it's also bug-filled and without patches? And no, I'm not talking about SH6. I smell a HAWKS sequel coming very soon.

Charlie901 · 03-20-10, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragtag

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a second patch. That the game was on 5th to 10th on the charts for a week means absolutely nothing. Being a reviewer i know that a game with this budget only needs to sell about 20.000-25.000 units to cover most of the costs. Keep in mind that this engine is old and only upgraded visually. What we have is the exact same engine as SH3 and SH4. Looking through the code establish this fact. There are tons of references to SH3 and SH4.

A couple of things comes to mind with this game. First of all is that they said beforehand that it would be way more moddable than ever and the "finished" released product clearly says they relied on it.
I could easily be considered a fanboy of Silent hunter by friends, and i really want to love it. But in all fairness, this game is by far the most incomplete and buggy game i've ever seen released to the public to buy.
The moral and level up system is a total mess. And this is one of the new major game features with SH5.
Don't give me the not needed or i don't like it anyways BS. The point is that it's what it's ment to be by the dev team. They wanted to do something new and different with the RPG system. And it would be kinda cool if it worked properly.
Important features are missing and left out. A load of commands left out. If you want it you have to rely on modders or learn to mod yourself. This is just not tolerable and i'm quite astonished that most of the gamers here just seem to accept it and thanks the modders. Are we really at the point where this should be accepted?
Is it we, the gamers, that should finish a game?
I think not!

Second issue is Ubisofts will to spit more money into projects after release. We can agree that Ubisoft isn't exactly well known to support games after release...well, if it doesn't sell millions that is. But even then they are cheap. The first Assassins creed got one patch i believe...ONE!
God knows how well it sold.
I have no doubts that the dev team wants to support the game but let's be honest here. Do you think Ubisoft spits more money into SH5?
personally i think no... there might be a second patch but i believe they will put the money into new projects. There are rumours already that Ubisoft Romania is already working on another project.
If we are lucky we will see a second patch but i don't count on it.
I challenge Ubisoft to surprise me.

Great post!

karamazovnew · 03-20-10, 05:39 PM

Actually if you think about it, SH3 received patches because they were also working on SH4. SH4 received patches because they had a team working on UBM. UBM received absolutely no patches (I can only guess how EASY it would've been to fix the Notepad, copy/paste from SH3, DONE). I believe tha after that release they were busy with another title.

Well, if the rumors are true and the team's been moved to another project, we can really kiss SH5 patches goodbye, based on previous experience.

Noren · 03-20-10, 05:41 PM

Folks who call others haters are afraid of the franchise dying and they will accept any quality what-so-ever. They perhaps see silent hunter merely as a template to which willing modders work their as of to complete and enhance.

Ragtag · 03-20-10, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noren

Folks who call others haters are afraid of the franchise dying and they will accept any quality what-so-ever. They perhaps see silent hunter merely as a template to which willing modders work their as of to complete and enhance.

That's exactly my point. Good to see i'm not the only one

karamazovnew · 03-20-10, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragtag

That's exactly my point. Good to see i'm not the only one

Oh relax, there's a LOT of us. The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".

Did you hear that Ducimus? GET TO WORK!!! You lazy bum

(joking ofc)

03-20-10, 03:18 PM	#32
Herodotus Sailor man Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 49 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Lock this thread...the title alone is pure trolling.

03-20-10, 04:30 PM	#34
Athlonic Chief Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: France Posts: 311 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 2	Where's the link to the 1.2 patch ? __________________ ________________________ Gimme tons of patches ! Athlonic's MCCD "More Crew Commands by Dialog" MOD for Silent Hunter 5 Version 1.04 SH5 1.2.0 Ready Athlonic's TSAF Mod : Torpedo_Speed_Abilitie_Fix_for_TDC

03-20-10, 04:56 PM	#36
letterboy1 Captain Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbus, GA, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Both SH3 and SH4 were released in somewhat similar shapes and were given several patches. SH3 which many are calling "better" is only in the shape that it's in because 1) it got initial support from devs in the form of several patches and, 2) the mod developers, especially the GWX team, have been at it for several years. If anything, the history of Silent Hunter since Ubi Romania took over tells us that we can expect great things from SH5. The haters make me laugh. When SH5 is patched and overflowing with awesome mods, the same post-tards will show up here with questions like, "I've been away from SH5 for a while, what are the best super mods?" __________________ Asus P8 Z68 Deluxe MoBo Intel Core i7 @ 4.4 GHz 16 GB RAM EVGA GTX Titan Black 1.5 T-byte HDD Antec 1 KW True Power Quattro PS

03-20-10, 05:03 PM	#37
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	To which we'll answer, SH5? Nah, that died back in March of 2010, where have you been? For then to go back to our supermods, laughing the whole way. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-20-10, 05:07 PM	#38
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a second patch. That the game was on 5th to 10th on the charts for a week means absolutely nothing. Being a reviewer i know that a game with this budget only needs to sell about 20.000-25.000 units to cover most of the costs. Keep in mind that this engine is old and only upgraded visually. What we have is the exact same engine as SH3 and SH4. Looking through the code establish this fact. There are tons of references to SH3 and SH4. A couple of things comes to mind with this game. First of all is that they said beforehand that it would be way more moddable than ever and the "finished" released product clearly says they relied on it. I could easily be considered a fanboy of Silent hunter by friends, and i really want to love it. But in all fairness, this game is by far the most incomplete and buggy game i've ever seen released to the public to buy. The moral and level up system is a total mess. And this is one of the new major game features with SH5. Don't give me the not needed or i don't like it anyways BS. The point is that it's what it's ment to be by the dev team. They wanted to do something new and different with the RPG system. And it would be kinda cool if it worked properly. Important features are missing and left out. A load of commands left out. If you want it you have to rely on modders or learn to mod yourself. This is just not tolerable and i'm quite astonished that most of the gamers here just seem to accept it and thanks the modders. Are we really at the point where this should be accepted? Is it we, the gamers, that should finish a game? I think not! Second issue is Ubisofts will to spit more money into projects after release. We can agree that Ubisoft isn't exactly well known to support games after release...well, if it doesn't sell millions that is. But even then they are cheap. The first Assassins creed got one patch i believe...ONE! God knows how well it sold. I have no doubts that the dev team wants to support the game but let's be honest here. Do you think Ubisoft spits more money into SH5? personally i think no... there might be a second patch but i believe they will put the money into new projects. There are rumours already that Ubisoft Romania is already working on another project. If we are lucky we will see a second patch but i don't count on it. I challenge Ubisoft to surprise me. __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD. Last edited by Ragtag; 03-20-10 at 05:22 PM.

03-20-10, 03:16 PM	#31
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Sounds like a good idea. Personally I would simply reword the topic header.

03-20-10, 05:34 PM	#40
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	There's gotta be a patch. It's actually annoying they didn't patch it ALREADY. "Let's see how the game sells before we fix it" is a very good reason to return the game to the shops. The game is broken. And the fact that SH is in the top charts just points out what a huge mistake it was to not give this series a fair chance. And really guys (Ubi), do you actually believe we're gonna buy your NEXT title if there's any chance it's also bug-filled and without patches? And no, I'm not talking about SH6. I smell a HAWKS sequel coming very soon.

03-20-10, 05:39 PM	#42
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	Actually if you think about it, SH3 received patches because they were also working on SH4. SH4 received patches because they had a team working on UBM. UBM received absolutely no patches (I can only guess how EASY it would've been to fix the Notepad, copy/paste from SH3, DONE). I believe tha after that release they were busy with another title. Well, if the rumors are true and the team's been moved to another project, we can really kiss SH5 patches goodbye, based on previous experience.

03-20-10, 05:41 PM	#43
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Folks who call others haters are afraid of the franchise dying and they will accept any quality what-so-ever. They perhaps see silent hunter merely as a template to which willing modders work their as of to complete and enhance.