SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter 5
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-20-10, 05:44 PM   #1
Ragtag
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 654
Downloads: 163
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noren View Post
Folks who call others haters are afraid of the franchise dying and they will accept any quality what-so-ever. They perhaps see silent hunter merely as a template to which willing modders work their as of to complete and enhance.
That's exactly my point. Good to see i'm not the only one
__________________
Intel I7-7800x CPU.
16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz.
Asrock Taichi X299 mb
Palit RTX 2080Ti.
Fortron 1000W PSU.
BenQ XR3501R LCD.
Ragtag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 05:52 PM   #2
karamazovnew
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 1,403
Downloads: 151
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragtag View Post
That's exactly my point. Good to see i'm not the only one
Oh relax, there's a LOT of us. The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".

Did you hear that Ducimus? GET TO WORK!!! You lazy bum (joking ofc)
karamazovnew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 05:56 PM   #3
Safe-Keeper
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Norway
Posts: 3,234
Downloads: 11
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".
Of course we did. Why wait for a patch when most of the complaints are tiny little things that it takes five minutes for us to fix ourselves?
Safe-Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 06:07 PM   #4
karamazovnew
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 1,403
Downloads: 151
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper View Post
Of course we did. Why wait for a patch when most of the complaints are tiny little things that it takes five minutes for us to fix ourselves?
I don't think you get the point... most people that bought the game had never heard about Subsim. The bugs in the game made a lot of people join this forum lately. There are a lot of people who don't use mods. The lack of info in the manual and the incomplete cammands and interface are not "tiny things', even though they were modded fast and painless. But the Save issues are humongous. Until they're fixed there's no reason to waste time on SH5 for any mod, regardless how simple it is and how good the modding tools are.

To use a car metaphor, it's like buying a car and when you see there's no steering wheel installed, you're told: "Well sir, we didn't have time to install a steering wheel. We suggest you go to MOMO.com and order a nice sport steering wheel. Most of our old customers were already doing that so we thought we left the wheel out and concentrate on the paint..."
karamazovnew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 06:13 PM   #5
Safe-Keeper
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Norway
Posts: 3,234
Downloads: 11
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
To use a car metaphor, it's like buying a car...
No. Not at all. A car is a car, a game is a game. I'm usually very open to metaphors, and I use them a lot myself, but sorry, but this just doesn't fly.
Safe-Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 06:15 PM   #6
karamazovnew
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 1,403
Downloads: 151
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper View Post
No. Not at all. A car is a car, a game is a game. I'm usually very open to metaphors, and I use them a lot myself, but sorry, but this just doesn't fly.
Oh come on... Steering wheel, compass? Momo.com, Subsim.com? No? Nothing?
karamazovnew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 06:29 PM   #7
piri_reis
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Istanbul, Turkiye
Posts: 715
Downloads: 115
Uploads: 0
Default

I just prefer to be patient.

This game will definitely get another patch or 2. They can't leave a very promising game in a buggy state. I'm guessing the sales would even pick up after the next patch and then with hopefully the sensible removal of OSP.

Considering all the new modding abilities, SH5 should be the best of the series in, well about 2 years..

__________________

Lt.z.S. Barbaros Hayreddin, U-35, 2nd Flot/Kiel, Type VIIB
Oct.29.1939, 2nd Patrol Eastern English Waters
Running SH5/TWOS
piri_reis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 06:30 PM   #8
Arclight
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese.
Posts: 8,467
Downloads: 53
Uploads: 10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by karamazovnew View Post
Oh come on... Steering wheel, compass? Momo.com, Subsim.com? No? Nothing?
You had me at "car metaphor".

Of course there will be patches, they have to patch it... right?
__________________

Contritium praecedit superbia.
Arclight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 06:21 PM   #9
Adriatico
Grey Wolf
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Periscope depth
Posts: 860
Downloads: 119
Uploads: 0
Default

Come on... bugs and noncences must be systematically fixed in ione download called patch.
Moders should make a game different, from arcade to sim, but not to clear and wash the garbage.

Could you imagine 14 years old kid, non English speaking, searching mod by mod, to make it playable... and not claiming refund to shop or website.
__________________

Adriatico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 05:57 PM   #10
Nordmann
Commodore
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: England
Posts: 628
Downloads: 62
Uploads: 0
Default

The problem is in the fact that modders are needed to bring the game up to the standard it should have been in the first place. Why should these people slave away, doing the developers' jobs, when they should instead be enjoying the game themselves?
__________________
"I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells
Nordmann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-10, 06:03 PM   #11
Noren
中国水兵
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 284
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0
Default

Yeah exactly. Its sad that we accept having several months long transition period where small, easily recognizable bugs are beeing fixed by modders. In the meantime, normal players shelf the game or play with inferior quality.

But this thread is about news about patches. Im more worried about the silence from ubisoft, dont they love us? We are their customers...
Noren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-10, 11:10 AM   #12
Drifter
Frogman
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 308
Downloads: 75
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by karamazovnew View Post
Oh relax, there's a LOT of us. The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".
That's exactly why I stopped modding SH5. I am not working for free any more to fix UBI's broken, unfinished crap.
__________________

Drifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.