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View Poll Results: What is your reason for not purchasing SHV?
No internet connection. 5 3.16%
Dialup only, too slow for permanent online connection. 6 3.80%
Bad cabling/poor ISP etc. 13 8.23%
Don't like DRM for single player games. 134 84.81%
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Old 02-26-10, 05:06 AM   #31
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Oh I have quite a lot of dropouts, I'm 5.5km from exchange, the broadband limit is 5km, so depending on weather conditions the connection will drop out, that is why I put the third option, although I myself voted for number 4.

Hi Reece

The high chance of being thrown out of a mission at least once - this is what certainly would spoil my experience. And - anger is not good, if you try to get away from the real world, is it ?

In your case, there is even a higher chance, that you even may not start the game at all.

But UBI decided not to care ...
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Old 02-26-10, 05:10 AM   #32
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I don't mind DRM for single player games. I personally have never struck any problems, (besides residual SecuRom files which are simple to remove if you know how), but I don't see the point of OSP a specific type of DRM chose by Ubi to "protect" its games. All it is doing is fermenting ill feeling towards the company and its products and is likely to cause them grief far beyond the likely "benefits".

I therefore cannot vote in this poll in its current form as it does not have any option that reflects what I feel.
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Old 02-26-10, 05:15 AM   #33
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I don't mind DRM for single player games. I personally have never struck any problems, (besides residual SecuRom files which are simple to remove if you know how), but I don't see the point of OSP a specific type of DRM chose by Ubi to "protect" its games. All it is doing is fermenting ill feeling towards the company and its products and is likely to cause them grief far beyond the likely "benefits".

I therefore cannot vote in this poll in its current form as it does not have any option that reflects what I feel.

I believe that in this case "DRM" refers to online DRM.
The terms seem to be interchangeable here.
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Old 02-26-10, 05:16 AM   #34
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I have great connection,cudos to my isp.Rarely do i lose it(maybe 1 a month tops for an hour becose of maitenance),but u have to draw the line somewhere.Regarding games i only play simulations;il 2,lock on,and sh series(my favourite),and it pains me to say that i will skip this one.Shame,and i was so looking forward to it
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Old 02-26-10, 05:27 AM   #35
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I believe that in this case "DRM" refers to online DRM.
The terms seem to be interchangeable here.
That's why I always use the term OSP. No confusion. Starforce and Securom are both DRM but not necessarily online. OSP is something quite different and I prefer to make the distinction distinct.
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That's why I always use the term OSP. No confusion. Starforce and Securom are both DRM but not necessarily online. OSP is something quite different and I prefer to make the distinction distinct.

Part of the reluctance to use 'OSP' might be the way Ubi have touted their
new system as 'DRM Free' in the hope of dissociating it with their poor
track record with DRM systems and advertising it as a customer service.
This despite OSP clearly being a form of DRM.

Personally I prefer the term "online DRM". That's unambiguous.

...what does OSP stand for anyway?! ed: service my arse.
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Old 02-26-10, 05:35 AM   #37
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I don't mind DRM for single player games. I personally have never struck any problems, (besides residual SecuRom files which are simple to remove if you know how), but I don't see the point of OSP a specific type of DRM chose by Ubi to "protect" its games. All it is doing is fermenting ill feeling towards the company and its products and is likely to cause them grief far beyond the likely "benefits".

I therefore cannot vote in this poll in its current form as it does not have any option that reflects what I feel.
Yes once I had posted the thread I realized I should have put OSP, but too late!
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Old 02-26-10, 06:07 AM   #38
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Cant you use the drm system with dialup connections?? I have 3.6Meg dialup and i was kind of hoping it would be fast enough??
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Old 02-26-10, 06:39 AM   #39
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Never mind inconvenience, possible unreliability, the right to shut down service within 30 days and other anti-customer measures, etc . . .

The idea of having to connect to a server 5,000 miles away in order to reach something stored in one's computer is beyond ridiculous.
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Cant you use the drm system with dialup connections?? I have 3.6Meg dialup and i was kind of hoping it would be fast enough??
As long as you are always connected whilst playing; yes.
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Old 02-26-10, 08:40 AM   #41
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If DRM were the only reason I wasn't going to buy SH5, #4 was my choice.
There are other things that concern me more that can be answered when the game is actually released.
DRM is not the deal breaker....yet.

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Old 02-26-10, 09:40 AM   #42
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...MzZwgD9DTD6IG1

Just wanted to point out that the survey was taken of only 54,000 households, a pretty small fraction of the real amount.
Only 54,000 households

Is this some kind of joke... or do you really expect them to call every households in America.
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Old 02-26-10, 10:25 AM   #43
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Only 54,000 households

Is this some kind of joke... or do you really expect them to call every households in America.
Lol, Meo. What Mstang probably missed is that 54,000 is a huge representative group. Most suse a carefully selected group of around 2,000 people. This gives the survey a margin of error of 3%.

The surveys done here are pretty accurate as the responders have a vested interest on the subject matter.

For example, it is pretty safe to predict that Ubi will take a serious hit iin sales on all gsmes with OSP (or the name of the day). Their sales to their core markets will probably be well below 70% off past releases.

Since they are trying to reach possibly uninformed markets, it may take them a few months to realize they are in serious financial trouble.
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Old 02-26-10, 10:32 AM   #44
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The poll could have used the 'boxes', the ones that let you make more than one choice.

I can't always afford a connection, so that was my vote, but even if I was filthy rich I would be against the whole thing on principle.
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Old 02-26-10, 10:38 AM   #45
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Why do you assume we didn't order SHV?
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