All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[Brag]

Originally Posted by cherbert

Can all the whiners who are not buying SH5 please leave and go back to the SH3 and SH4 forums you really are polluting the threads in here.

I bet half of you are hypocrites and will buy the game and are simply jumping on the anti-drm bandwagon.

Yes DRM sucks - but all I'm interested in at the moment is the excitement of what looks to be a an amazing leap forward in Submarine simulations and all I want to do is share that with like minded individuals who are as excited as I am. I always thought that was what subsim.com was all about.

The announced modding features virtually mean we are not a million miles from having what looks like a full SDK. Should we not be excited about this?

If you aren't buying it then move along - you don't need to be here.

Failing that can Neil create a forum called SH5 - Anti-DRM campaign. And leave the rest of us to look forward to this game in peace.

We agree with you that SH5 is probably a great game. No reason to roll over like a dog and accept DRM/OSP being shoved down our throats. If you want to have your privacy abused--your call.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by cherbert

Can all the whiners who are not buying SH5 please leave and go back to the SH3 and SH4 forums you really are polluting the threads in here.


Yes DRM sucks - but all I'm interested in at the moment is the excitement of what looks to be a an amazing leap forward in Submarine simulations and all I want to do is share that with like minded individuals who are as excited as I am. I always thought that was what subsim.com was all about.

The announced modding features virtually mean we are not a million miles from having what looks like a full SDK. Should we not be excited about this?

If you aren't buying it then move along - you don't need to be here.

Failing that can Neil create a forum called SH5 - Anti-DRM campaign. And leave the rest of us to look forward to this game in peace.

[JackAubrey]

Originally Posted by cherbert

Can all the whiners who are not buying SH5 please leave and go back to the SH3 and SH4 forums you really are polluting the threads in here.

Sorry Sir, but I fear you got something wrong.

Silent Hunter may simulate a german U-Boat during WW2, but that does not mean that the Forum members are supposed to adhere to the standards of german laws of that time, regarding the undermining of military morale.
The times are over where people got shot for voicing their concerns about the war effort or the leadership. Well, at least here in germany.

So, as long as this is a public Forum on Submarine Games, I think that I am allowed to voice my concerns about Submarine Games, what publishers may make of them in the future and how certain decisions of said publishers will influence my decision to buy or not.
As long as i stay somewhat polite, don't open the same thread over and over again and don't impose my views on other users, I should be allowed of doing so.

Well, at least until Neal, who has the domiciliary rights here, decides it's time to put a stop to a certain topic. Then maybe its again time that people get shot.

[Feuer Frei!]

Fellow Kaleuns.......
It's not an issue of people not allowed to voice their opinions, far from it, opinions are like @#$%&les, everyone has got one, (one of my sayings in life)......
the issue i personally see with the "majority" of threads here, is that it's not the voicing of the opinions, or whether we live in a free democratic society or not, or whether i personally respect or don't respect another person's opinion (and for the record, i do respect other people's opinions),
what really is "tiring", "old school", "boring" and just plain unoriginal is the continued re-gurgitation or supposedly "new" threads, but really just disguised with a "new" title, and the content either slightly re-worded, end result= another negative view!

I come on these forums to ponder, to read and to share civilized, friendly conversations with other members, hopefully learn something in the process, and share my enthusiasm for Sub sim gaming with others.....

I fully understand that this particular section is dedicated to Silent Hunter 5 ie the threads will be about Silent Hunter 5......

however what i don't understand is the continued negativity about this "up-and-comer"....

ok you say, you don't understand people's frustrations with the "possible" inclusions of a lot of things that "may" be included in the final release?
Well, i do, in fact i am saturated with all the problems, issues, no, i'm not buying it's, Ubisoft doesn't care....blah blah blah....

I think as i have posted somewhere else previously.....if you don't like it, do your talking with your wallet.......
which, seems like many of you are intending to do.....i respect that, just like people's opinions, however what i do not respect is, the continual negativity.......ok, so you don't like it? fine, no problem, but seriously, how many times do i need to be told that Silent Hunter 5 will fail?
Seriously.......

[Hitman]

Well speaking seriously it would be nice if the anti-DRM crowd could manage not to turn every single thread into a DRM bitching session.

Hey I think it's fair: Since SH5 needs permanent DRM connection to play the game, we also need permanent DRM critizism while connected to SH5 forums.

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Hey I think it's fair: Since SH5 needs permanent DRM connection to play the game, we also need permanent DRM critizism while connected to SH5 forums.

and for many it's the only reason to stay away from ordering SH5 atm. this a sad thing cause expectation and anticipation were great on my side .....

[IanC]

We're just human. Let us vent.

[Brag]

The DRMs of doom are drumming

There wouldn't be that much negative posts about SH5 or DRM if everyone agreed with nonsences DRM offers. But no somebody has to come up with the ideas like: "Hey DRM is good for you, your gamesaves will get even safer in UBI's servers" these lines just kills me. Heck nor I want this feature nor I need it. My PC is my castle and if I buy a game I want to have it ALL in my pc, without these internet conection conditions as a must to play career! It has been stupid idea from the very begining of it and will remain untill it dies. And everyone with common sense are able to realize that.
Moreover they think DRM provides a huge services like autoupdates! Wow what an achievement, like users couldn;t find and download patches themselves from ubi webpage. Again useless service IMO.

[TDK1044]

Smoke on the horizon, Sir.
What is it?
It looks like a server, Sir. VII class. sinking fast.
Anyone with it?
Stupid people, Sir. Hanging on for dear life with Network cables.
Range to target?
Unable to comply, Sir. That bug isn't fixed yet.
How do we sink it?
Just give it time, Sir. It will sink on its own.

[Egan]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Smoke on the horizon, Sir.
What is it?
It looks like a server, Sir. VII class. sinking fast.
Anyone with it?
Stupid people, Sir. Hanging on for dear life with Network cables.
Range to target?
Unable to comply, Sir. That bug isn't fixed yet.
How do we sink it?
Just give it time, Sir. It will sink on its own.

Lol! I'm putting that on a t-shirt! Best thing I've read all day!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Smoke on the horizon, Sir.
What is it?
It looks like a server, Sir. VII class. sinking fast.
Anyone with it?
Stupid people, Sir. Hanging on for dear life with Network cables.
Range to target?
Unable to comply, Sir. That bug isn't fixed yet.
How do we sink it?
Just give it time, Sir. It will sink on its own.

Made me drop my popcorn

[IanC]

Originally Posted by zulus

There wouldn't be that much negative posts about SH5 or DRM if everyone agreed with nonsences DRM offers. But no somebody has to come up with the ideas like: "Hey DRM is good for you, your gamesaves will get even safer in UBI's servers" these lines just kills me. Heck nor I want this feature nor I need it. My PC is my castle and if I buy a game I want to have it ALL in my pc, without these internet conection conditions as a must to play career! It has been stupid idea from the very begining of it and will remain untill it dies. And everyone with common sense are able to realize that.
Moreover they think DRM provides a huge services like autoupdates! Wow what an achievement, like users couldn;t find and download patches themselves from ubi webpage. Again useless service IMO.

[SteamWake]

Sure take your uncomfortable dissenting voices elsewhere

[trenken]

Originally Posted by cherbert

Can all the whiners who are not buying SH5 please leave and go back to the SH3 and SH4 forums you really are polluting the threads in here.

I bet half of you are hypocrites and will buy the game and are simply jumping on the anti-drm bandwagon.

Yes DRM sucks - but all I'm interested in at the moment is the excitement of what looks to be a an amazing leap forward in Submarine simulations and all I want to do is share that with like minded individuals who are as excited as I am. I always thought that was what subsim.com was all about.

The announced modding features virtually mean we are not a million miles from having what looks like a full SDK. Should we not be excited about this?

If you aren't buying it then move along - you don't need to be here.

Failing that can Neil create a forum called SH5 - Anti-DRM campaign. And leave the rest of us to look forward to this game in peace.

Much agreed. Gaming is changing, technology is changing. I dont know a single person that does not have a constant connection to the internet, so all these guys are fighting against a change that is going to happen anyway just because they are stuck in the past. They'll just be left in the dust so its noone's problem but their own.

Same as people did that loved record albums, or was heavily invested in VHS, or whatever else that was eventually killed off. Offline games are going away now, and ive never played a DRM game I didnt love, so Im very excited about SH5, and im sick of these people unwilling to jump on board the train of technology (which stops for noone) and flooding this board with this nonsense.

I cant even come here and casually read some topics about this game without tons of people about DRM. Who does that? Isnt it better to just roll with the changes than to try to fight it, its always a losing battle when it comes to this stuff. People will never learn. They're just going to end up those people in vitage gaming shops still looking for offline games, just like all those dudes still searching for records.