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View Poll Results: Who won the presidential debate?
John McCain 13 35.14%
Barack Obama 24 64.86%
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Old 09-27-08, 03:38 PM   #31
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Who won the debate? Bugs Bunny. At least it gives me a reason to laugh!
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Old 09-27-08, 03:46 PM   #32
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When is the last time a vice president was actually active in running the country?

They have less input than any cabinate member.
Excuse me! Vice President Chenny may be in need of a good attorney or a presidential pardon after he leaves office. :hmm:
Beat me to it.
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Old 09-27-08, 03:47 PM   #33
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Old 09-27-08, 03:53 PM   #34
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I just want it to be all over so I know whether to dig up my back garden and build a bomb shelter....
Anychance you might have any left over materials...:rotfl:
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Old 09-27-08, 03:54 PM   #35
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But Joe Biden could use some tips in American History. Listening to the radio talkshows yesterday, and heard him saying something to the effect that FDR was president when the crash of 29 occurred, and that he made a television appearence / speech, to calm the country?

If FDR had been president during the crash of 29, I doubt he would have been elected to the presidency 4 times. And I think the openning speech by Adolf Hitler during the 1936 Olympics in Berlin was the first or one of the first "television" broadcasts, or use of that technology.
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Old 09-27-08, 04:00 PM   #36
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But Joe Biden could use some tips in American History. Listening to the radio talkshows yesterday, and heard him saying something to the effect that FDR was president when the crash of 29 occurred, and that he made a television appearence / speech, to calm the country?

If FDR had been president during the crash of 29, I doubt he would have been elected to the presidency 4 times. And I think the openning speech by Adolf Hitler during the 1936 Olympics in Berlin was the first or one of the first "television" broadcasts, or use of that technology.
Thankfully Biden will be dealing with current affairs.

As a note to those who are a little less enlightened on American history, it was the 31st president of the United States, Herbert Hoover of the Republican Party, who was president during the Great Depression. A loathsome politician indeed.

Wouldn't it be ironic if our current market crashed in October? It would be "Black Tuesday" all over again.

Have you got a video or news article with Biden saying that? I'd love to read more about it. Reminds me of how President Bush (the current Bush; not Old Man Bush) couldn't spell "Connecticut", the state he was born in:

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Old 09-27-08, 04:13 PM   #37
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What does David Letterman have to do with the debate? And, by the way, who are "you people"? People who notice "little things" like signs of lack of respect for their country? Quite often, you can tell more about an individual by the "little things" than by the crap that comes out of their mouths.
Letterman didn't have anything to do with the debate, but didn't you hear the story about McCain cancelling his appearance on Letterman's show? He claimed it was because he had to return to Washington to help fight the financial crisis of the country. However, he did an interview with CBS and did not return to D.C.

The point: McCain is not as honorable as he claims to be.
Of course, I saw what McCain did to Letterman and agree that it wasn't a real smart move on his part.



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And by "you people" I'm referring to the people who oppose Barack and everything he says (the ones who are totally dedicated to McCain; now before you call me a hypocrite, I'm not totally dedicated to Obama).
Well, good then you weren't demeaning me when you said "you people" because I don't oppose everything Barry says and am not totally dedicated to McCain.

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How is not wearing a pin the size of a dime on your jacket lack of respect for the country? Jesus, man... he just didn't want to wear one. Who cares? And as far as judgement on him goes by the little details, have you even met the man?
Again, you ass-u-me that I was talking about the stupid pin. I'm talking about his seeming lack of ability to pay attention, put his hand over his heart or face the flag when the National Anthem is being played. It's one of those "little things" that, to me, signify a respect for your country. I suppose I shouldn't care about the little things since they don't seem to mean much to the average "citizen" any more, anyway, as evidenced by the numbers of people picking their noses, scratching their asses and generally being bored during the anthem at sporting events.

Have I even met the man? Nope, can't say that I've had the pleasure of meeting any Presidential candidates. I have read his voting record which tells me far more than meeting the man could ever tell me. I can listen to his rhetoric without substance and learn far more than I would ever learn from meeting the man.

I'm going to assume that you've met the man and are impressed with him. Good for you

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Excuse me, but shouldn't he have been more concerned with debating Obama than playing up to the crowd? Wasn't that what the two were there for, to debate? Do you seriously believe that, by waving to the crowd as soon as he stepped on stage, Obama was thanking them for being there? Debates aren't about addressing the audience, debates are about addressing the questions.
He should have been concerned about both, and he was only concerned with the debate. Obama at least made ONE small address to the audience and then went along with the debate.

Well how do you know he wasn't thanking them for being there? It's only polite to address those who have come to see you.

Debates are about both the audience and the questions. Remember, it's the audience that will be voting for you in the end. And I don't just mean the audience in the auditorium. I mean the true audience: the people who have tuned in on their TV sets to watch the debates and candidates stand and give their opinions.
Neither of us knows, without a doubt, what the man was thinking when he walked on stage. I have my ideas, based on observing the man, as do you. Our observations are most certainly different.
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Old 09-27-08, 04:25 PM   #38
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Of course, I saw what McCain did to Letterman and agree that it wasn't a real smart move on his part.
It was a jackass move, too.

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Again, you ass-u-me that I was talking about the stupid pin. I'm talking about his seeming lack of ability to pay attention, put his hand over his heart or face the flag when the National Anthem is being played.
But is that really a crime? Should the man be shot for it? People treated it like it was a serious offense right after it occured.

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It's one of those "little things" that, to me, signify a respect for your country. I suppose I shouldn't care about the little things since they don't seem to mean much to the average "citizen" any more, anyway, as evidenced by the numbers of people picking their noses, scratching their asses and generally being bored during the anthem at sporting events.
Well, it is respectful if you do go along with the usual ritual, but it's not that big of a deal if he chooses not to.

And with all the patriotic crap going on, it does get repetitive after a while. All these fruity little names that they give plans and operations (like "OPERATION EAGLE SPIRIT" and all that droll) bugs the hell out of me.

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I have read his voting record which tells me far more than meeting the man could ever tell me. I can listen to his rhetoric without substance and learn far more than I would ever learn from meeting the man.
I can agree on voting records. With that said, McCain's record is the reason why I'm not voting for him (that and he supported Bush in the Iraq War).

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I'm going to assume that you've met the man and are impressed with him.
I listened to him speak in Columbia, Missouri, but that's as close as I got. I've always wondered how some of those people in the front row get such great seats. I'd imagine it has something to do with how much money they contributed but oh well.

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Neither of us knows, without a doubt, what the man was thinking when he walked on stage. I have my ideas, based on observing the man, as do you. Our observations are most certainly different.
Indeed. It will all be made clear in November.
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Old 09-27-08, 04:47 PM   #39
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I just want it to be all over so I know whether to dig up my back garden and build a bomb shelter....
Anychance you might have any left over materials...:rotfl:
Duck and cover you muttpes, i mean really, has the government not tought you anything?
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Indeed. It will all be made clear in November.
:rotfl:Nothing will be any clearer in November than it is now. All we'll know (maybe) is who got elected. Only time will tell what that means no matter who is elected.
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Old 09-27-08, 05:05 PM   #41
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I just want it to be all over so I know whether to dig up my back garden and build a bomb shelter....
Anychance you might have any left over materials...:rotfl:
Duck and cover you muttpes, i mean really, has the government not tought you anything?
Hows that gonna save ya from radiation, I think id rather be killed quickly than have my cells slowly die.
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Old 09-27-08, 05:36 PM   #42
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I support McCain, so I am biased. From what I saw of the debate, Obama strikes me as out of his element. He repeats generic talking points that basically mean "We have to fix everything". McCain has been a senator for 20 years, he actually knows how to do these things. He knows what he is talking about. Obama is one of the most inexperienced, junior senators, a scant 2 years of experience. He is a good speaker under the right conditions. But he's way behind McCain in knowledge and savvy.
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McCain has been a senator for 20 years, he actually knows how to do these things. He knows what he is talking about.
He may now what he is talking about, but looking at his history in both the house and the senate, McCain has had a most mediocre career.

In 26 years he has been in charge of only two committees. One a party committee on Indian Affairs and the other being the Commerce Committee.

In looking over his entire almost 30 years in the congress, he has not accomplished all that much for someone trying to rag Obama on lack of experience.

He may call himself a maverick, but I think the rest of the Senate just calls McCain that annoying guy in the back of the room that everyone tries to ignore.
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No matter who wins...

WE LOSE!
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No matter who wins...

WE LOSE!
Shhhh

That is supposed to be a secret. We don't want the population to know that.
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