Argentina bringing back 1982 war huh?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

I wouldn't worry about that Penelope, you know it's mostly a male forum, when it's not about breasts it's about war, eventually it will get back to breats

I couldn't say it any better myself! And I find this 'not talking' about a possible conflict, especially when there is a bit of sabre rattling going on, because it might make it happen type mentallity, is absurd! We are on a war based forum for gods sake!

Funny

-S

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

If this war were to happen. NO CONTEST. i'll be eating fish&chips and washing it down with Guiness in Argentina within a month.

Guinness, that most British of drinks

[Happy Times]

Im sure it can get boring down there.:rotfl:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HfIpBFEXXfk

[Trex]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Rather than talking of how it could be avoided, no... straight to who has what planes and ships.

Ms Wolf - In all honesty, you are probably a bit right, but keep in mind that this is SUBSIM, a site whose enthusiasts are interested in that end of things. If you wanted prevention, maybe there is a DIPLOMACYSIM site somewhere (only slightly joking) where the members consider a stiff diplomatic note exciting. Wrong audience, I guess.

BTW, the pie sounds yummy!

[AVGWarhawk]

Not side track the thread....the sausage and egg pie....recipe?

[JetSnake]

A huge oil field was recently discovered near the Falklands. Something in the size that could provide billions of barrels. My guess is it would be in the UKs interest to defend their discovery. And I would assume this is something the Argies would love to exploit since their economy is in shambles.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by JetSnake

A huge oil field was recently discovered near the Falklands. Something in the size that could provide billions of barrels. My guess is it would be in the UKs interest to defend their discovery. And I would assume this is something the Argies would love to exploit since their economy is in shambles.

Oh really? That makes more sense. The Argies have had their economy in shambles for some time too.

Usually, countries don't make statements like Argentina did without a goal in mind that involves action. THings may heat up soon I would guess.

-S

[Tchocky]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6571431.stm

I see the statement as something that every premier of Argentina has to rattle off at some point, every country has a few sacred cows.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6571431.stm

I see the statement as something that every premier of Argentina has to rattle off at some point, every country has a few sacred cows.

That is because the will of the people will that Argentina do somethign about it at some point. Same problem with China and Taiwan. Things will heat up in both places at some time. It is unavoidable unless some mutually beneficial agreement can be reached. THe Falklands only way out of a future conflict may rest in sharing oil profits with Argentina now. ANy other way and Argentineans will feel angry and left out.

-S

[Trex]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

ANy other way and Argentineans will feel angry and left out.

As they have for the past 180 years. I can hear their doctor from here: "Take 200 mg of Suckitup and call me in the morning."

Spain is still pissed about Gibralter. Ireland still wants the northern bits. And Japan is still fretting over the Kurils. The Afghan parliament has rejected the Duran Line and claims most of northern Pakistan. Spain and Morocco have got half a dozen territorial bunfights in the works. Canada and Denmark are bickering over Hans Island. The Yanks aren't happy about the boundary in the Juan de Fuca Strait (those damned aggressive Canadians again). You could fill a small library with details on disputed territories and most have not wound up smelling of cordite. Just because there is a dispute does not mean there is going to be a war.

Historically, those nations that started wars in recent times generally did not wind up profiting from them; with the exceptions of some utter whackos like Kim, that lesson has generally filtered down to the national level at least.

Moreover, land claims don't usually carry much weight in law centuries latter. Few nations would want them to, frankly. There are too many skeletons in just about everybody's closet.

The best option for the Falklands, I think, is for London to ask the UN to run a self-determination referendum with suffrage restricted to established residents. Make a big deal of it - international observers, full media coverage, the works. It's a no-brainer as to results and would make it much harder for some future Argentine govt to lay claim when the UN has formally nodded in Britain's direction.

[Kapitan]

We have 2 active carriers one is mothballed which means we can re activate invincible and that gives us one more carrier than in the first war, ocean could if they moved the goal keeper over possibly also carry harriers.

we have a large RFA with landing ships not to mention should war break out we have the QE2 and QM2 still and many other british flagged ships that we can use, the argentines are more scared of our nuclear submarines we have 7 trafalgars 2 swiftsures and 1 astute

we have enough DDG's to make one battle group which is enough and the type 23's which are a bit better than the type 22's we still got 4 of them as well and the ones mothballed, the FA2 is mothballed they would probably re activate them, they could send typhoons and tornadoes to the asension islands with a few tankers and then you got air denfence the type 45 would probably be there as well.

i still rekon we have a fairly good chance of winning down there even in the state we are in now.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I'm questioning Britain's ability to defend it this time around if Conflict does break out. I'm pretty sure they would lose since they have less capability than they did back then.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-03-voa28.cfm

-S

You been trying out some new beer Subman. Britain lose to Argentina:hmm: I doubt it very much, they maybe a bunch of pompus bartasds but they know how to fight & win.

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by article

The president of Argentina has reasserted her country's claim to sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, on the 26th anniversary of the start of the war Argentina fought with Britain over the territory.

Damn politicians, why can't they keep their slack-jawed mouths shut for a change?
The Falklands belong to us British, or rather, the people who actually live there on a barren windswept lump of rock in the middle of nowhere, want to be British.
As it stands it would make little difference if the islands residents wanted to be Argentinian, fact of the matter is it's their choice who they are, not some junta nut-jobs or Whitehall fat-cats thousands of miles away.

I've wondered in the past what would have happened had the British not responded to the invasion back then; would the Argentinians have killed civilians there if they resisted the occupation? Come to that, were the positions reversed, would the British?
Rash speculation, I know, but landing expeditionary forces on foreign territory with the expectation that the country they belong to will do nothing, is just asking for a bloody nose or worse; and all for what, a boost to national pride? One more good war and an easy victory to ensure re-election? (now who does that sound like? )

One might have expected such foolish rhetoric as quoted above might have been quelled by the international embarrassment caused the last time round. I guess some people are too blind to let go of the past: a "colonial enclave in the 21st century." she called it, well there's no getting around such entrenched thinking as that.

But if that's the way they want it, well then President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, step up and take your best shot if you think you can. It had better be a good one because you won't get a second chance...








Huh, didn't think so.

[nikimcbee]

Just think of the DW scenarios you can make now.:hmm:

The UK should just sell them the Island if they want it so bad. I don't know how attached the UK is to the islands though.

[Janus]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Just think of the DW scenarios you can make now.:hmm:

I've been thinking of Falklands/Malvinas Scenarios for DW since I own it. Unfortunately there aren't any.