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SUBMAN1 04-04-08 12:31 PM

Argentina bringing back 1982 war huh?
 
I'm questioning Britain's ability to defend it this time around if Conflict does break out. I'm pretty sure they would lose since they have less capability than they did back then.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-03-voa28.cfm

-S

TDK1044 04-04-08 12:42 PM

I remember the 1982 encounter well. My most vivid memory is of an intrepid reporter from one of the Networks asking a British Commando what his greatest fear is...to which he responded "An Officer with a map" :D

Happy Times 04-04-08 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I'm questioning Britain's ability to defend it this time around if Conflict does break out. I'm pretty sure they would lose since they have less capability than they did back then.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-03-voa28.cfm

-S

I would say that the Argentians would loose again. Comparing Air Forces and Navys the Brits have nothing to fear.

Dowly 04-04-08 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044
I remember the 1982 encounter well. My most vivid memory is of an intrepid reporter from one of the Networks asking a British Commando what his greatest fear is...to which he responded "An Officer with a map" :D

:rotfl::rotfl:

Sonarman 04-04-08 12:58 PM

I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82

SUBMAN1 04-04-08 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman
I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82

So is the Argentines though too. SO its a toss up again. I don't even see the Mirages that the Argentines used to fly, but the Brits can't put up a carrier anymore either that I know of, so that may not even be an issue. ALl they would have to do is jump on a crusie ship and park troops in the Falklands, and I don't see how the Brits could do much about it? THey don't have a mobile airforce anymore that I know of.

-S

PS. NEver mind - THe Mirages are still flying - http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ina/index.html

Matter of fact, I am sure the UK would have trouble this time around.

Happy Times 04-04-08 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman
I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82

Still no way.
You have 3 carriers! You can fly more Eurofighters and Tornados to RAF Mount Pleasant.
Your surface fleet and submarine force is much stronger and will own the Argentinians.
Have some faith, the Falklands is probably one of the top scenarios your Admiralty has planned.

Roads88 04-04-08 01:13 PM

The Royal Navy still has its Subs. So much for the cruise ship.:rotfl:

Tchocky 04-04-08 01:15 PM

Non-event. Not going to happen.
In the same way the Russo-Japanese War only happened once. When there's no need to distract, there is no distraction.

SUBMAN1 04-04-08 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Roads88
The Royal Navy still has its Subs. So much for the cruise ship.:rotfl:

Try surprise. Cruise ship parks, Army walks off, Argentina conquered. Its already too late by the time the subs respond. And I see the Argentina Air Force has plenty of troop transport capability after the Falklands air defenses are shut down.

-S

AVGWarhawk 04-04-08 01:25 PM

I remember that action and the Harrier jets doing their thing. I was in 10th grade.

Happy Times 04-04-08 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roads88
The Royal Navy still has its Subs. So much for the cruise ship.:rotfl:

Try surprise. Cruise ship parks, Army walks off, Argentina conquered. Its already too late by the time the subs respond. And I see the Argentina Air Force has plenty of troop transport capability after the Falklands air defenses are shut down.

-S

Unlikely suprise would be a success, that would be a total intelligence failure.
The Brits have Tornados and Marines placed there permanently, we dont know what else. They can fly in more troops and aircraft fast, im sure they have plans for this.

August 04-04-08 01:31 PM

I'd like to think that given GBs support of our recent military actions we'd support them in a Falklands war redux. This time with a little more than sat imagery.

Happy Times 04-04-08 01:32 PM

Btw, its the No. 1435 Flight RAF famous from Malta in WWII in Falklands.:up:

"The practice of naming the four-aircraft presence on the islands has also been maintained: they are called Faith, Hope and Charity, after the legendary three Gloster Gladiators that defended Malta, and Desperation. Desperation was added to the three traditional names when Phantom FGR2s entered service in the Falklands and the flight was revived in 1988. Faith, Hope and Charity fly operationally, with Desperation appropriately in reserve. On their retirement in 1992, one of the Phantoms was placed as the gate guardian at Mount Pleasant.

1435 Flight will receive the Eurofighter Typhoon by the end of 2007."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1435_Flight_RAF

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-U3-9UO0w

RAF F3 Tornados; Charity and Faith heading for the runway at Mount Pleasant Airbase, Falkland Islands.

http://www.british-towns.net/offshor...nd%20Faith.JPG

iambecomelife 04-04-08 01:40 PM

For those of you interested in flight sims, here is a link to an upcoming sim about the first (and hopefully the only) Falklands War:

http://www.thunder-works.com/forum.htm

It's by a smaller developer who has both British and Argentinians (sp) on the staff. They promise a detailed campaign mode and excellent graphics.

http://www.thunder-works.com/media/acmodels.jpg

http://www.thunder-works.com/media/frigate4.jpg

Pics courtesy of thunder-works.com


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