Enemy Mine Field Chart - Page 3

Captain Nemo · 03-07-08, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chisum

Strangely i'm actually in this area and theres is no mines at least.

Their there alright, I've found out the hard way.

Nemo

Kipparikalle · 03-07-08, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

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Originally Posted by Chisum

Strangely i'm actually in this area and theres is no mines at least.

Their there alright, I've found out the hard way.

Nemo

And you survived I presume, hmm?

Captain Nemo · 03-07-08, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kipparikalle

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

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Originally Posted by Chisum

Strangely i'm actually in this area and theres is no mines at least.

Their there alright, I've found out the hard way.

Nemo

And you survived I presume, hmm?

Nope, that was another career in the dust bin. Crew couldn't contain the heavy flooding after hitting the mine. U-48 with it's Captain Gustav Mindt and crew rest at the bottom of the North Sea at 72 metres depth. But if you are asking if I personally survived then the answer I'm glad to say is yes.

Nemo

Kipparikalle · 03-07-08, 01:42 PM

Were you submerged or surfaced?

Chisum · 03-07-08, 11:51 PM

Well, maby I don't understand everything or maby I was very lucky, but there is my way near the english coast and sorry but there is no mine on my way.
We are in the winter of 1940, all the night I were surfaced at 14 knots and everything was allright.

In fact, I never encounter a mine in SH3...

Graf Paper · 03-08-08, 12:50 AM

Believe me, those mines are there and in far greater numbers than you suspect.

I once had a peek at the actual minefields as they are laid out in the GWX campaign.

The "Eastern Barrage" that runs down the coast of Britain looks like a nearly solid wall of mines that is several kilometers wide.

If you patrol in shallow waters after early 1941, your odds of hitting a mine somewhere between Britian and Gemany are pretty high, I'd say.

Stiebler · 03-08-08, 02:50 AM

This minefield map is taken from the NYGM 'DeclaredMinefields' mod. I created it.

It's purpose was (and is) to enable players of NYGM to avoid the declared British minefields in 1940, and later during the so-called 'Inshore Campaign' of 1944-45.

The documentation, which should not have been detached from the map, states clearly that:
a) the map shows only *declared* defensive minefields around the British Isles. Offensive minefields were not declared, so naturally the Germans could not be sure where they were.
b) the marked maps on the zone are not strictly accurate, to allow for errors of navigation and drifting mines (mines that have broken free from their morrings).
c) The huge east-coast defensive mine barriers were last reinforced in 1942, and were 'probably' inactive by the end of 1944 (according to German thinking). Hence U-boats could cross the east-coast mine barrage submerged - but cautiously!

The minefields themselves were created by NYGM's Der Teddy Bar, originally for RUb (Real U-boat), but were subsequently used by NYGM and, evidently, by GWX.

Stiebler.

Kipparikalle · 03-08-08, 03:56 AM

Next time when I see a ship inside that minefield zone, I wanna try and sink it. And see what happens when it hits the bottom.

New way to find mines, no need to run submerged anymore Firewall to find out where they are

*Edit* I figured that making one of those bloody DD's to chase you on the zone, to make sure are there mines. So you don't need to search the whole damn ocean to find one ship to make little tests with it.

Chisum · 03-09-08, 02:56 AM

Ok, I saw my first mine in SH3 yesterday, june 2 of 1940 near Dunkerque...
I used the scope to watch something but finaly I exploded...

It's not a very good point to your hollydays...

Sailor Steve · 03-09-08, 01:08 PM

And consider that in real life you probably won't see anything like that. I keep my underwater visibility set for 2, just to prevent me doing things like that.

Chisum · 03-09-08, 06:22 PM

Sure Steve.
But in real I have not the permision to cross the channel in june 1940 !
Normaly I must cruise by the North of England to join DJ13 near Gibraltar.

But I know what you means, it must be terrible to cruise immerged in the mine...

And not so easy as in the movie "Torpedo run" !

Captain Nemo · 03-10-08, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kipparikalle

Were you submerged or surfaced?

I was submerged.

Nemo

Kipparikalle · 03-10-08, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

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Originally Posted by Kipparikalle

Were you submerged or surfaced?

I was submerged.

Nemo

Must have hit one of your subs weak spots.

I still remember when I was just a nublet, and saw my first seamine. I almost totally freaked out, the shape of the mines just scares me and the fact that just toughing one of it's spikes blows tons of explosives.

Or I was just scared about the thing that my sub was in middle of minefield and just accidentally looked under the water with the freecam.

I miss those days...

But I've overcome my fears, I'm the worst nightmare of DD's and minelayers on these days.

03-07-08, 11:51 PM	#35
Chisum Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bastogne, Belgium Posts: 716 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Well, maby I don't understand everything or maby I was very lucky, but there is my way near the english coast and sorry but there is no mine on my way. We are in the winter of 1940, all the night I were surfaced at 14 knots and everything was allright. In fact, I never encounter a mine in SH3... __________________ [http://simus-paradise.forumactif.com/silent-hunter-iii-f12/

03-08-08, 12:50 AM	#36
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Believe me, those mines are there and in far greater numbers than you suspect. I once had a peek at the actual minefields as they are laid out in the GWX campaign. The "Eastern Barrage" that runs down the coast of Britain looks like a nearly solid wall of mines that is several kilometers wide. If you patrol in shallow waters after early 1941, your odds of hitting a mine somewhere between Britian and Gemany are pretty high, I'd say. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

03-08-08, 02:50 AM	#37
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	This minefield map is taken from the NYGM 'DeclaredMinefields' mod. I created it. It's purpose was (and is) to enable players of NYGM to avoid the declared British minefields in 1940, and later during the so-called 'Inshore Campaign' of 1944-45. The documentation, which should not have been detached from the map, states clearly that: a) the map shows only declared defensive minefields around the British Isles. Offensive minefields were not declared, so naturally the Germans could not be sure where they were. b) the marked maps on the zone are not strictly accurate, to allow for errors of navigation and drifting mines (mines that have broken free from their morrings). c) The huge east-coast defensive mine barriers were last reinforced in 1942, and were 'probably' inactive by the end of 1944 (according to German thinking). Hence U-boats could cross the east-coast mine barrage submerged - but cautiously! The minefields themselves were created by NYGM's Der Teddy Bar, originally for RUb (Real U-boat), but were subsequently used by NYGM and, evidently, by GWX. Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience!

03-09-08, 02:56 AM	#39
Chisum Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bastogne, Belgium Posts: 716 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Ok, I saw my first mine in SH3 yesterday, june 2 of 1940 near Dunkerque... I used the scope to watch something but finaly I exploded... It's not a very good point to your hollydays... __________________ [http://simus-paradise.forumactif.com/silent-hunter-iii-f12/

03-09-08, 01:08 PM	#40
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	And consider that in real life you probably won't see anything like that. I keep my underwater visibility set for 2, just to prevent me doing things like that. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-07-08, 01:42 PM	#34
Kipparikalle Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 580 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Were you submerged or surfaced?

03-08-08, 03:56 AM	#38
Kipparikalle Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 580 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Next time when I see a ship inside that minefield zone, I wanna try and sink it. And see what happens when it hits the bottom. New way to find mines, no need to run submerged anymore Firewall to find out where they are Edit I figured that making one of those bloody DD's to chase you on the zone, to make sure are there mines. So you don't need to search the whole damn ocean to find one ship to make little tests with it.

03-09-08, 06:22 PM	#41
Chisum Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bastogne, Belgium Posts: 716 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Sure Steve. But in real I have not the permision to cross the channel in june 1940 ! Normaly I must cruise by the North of England to join DJ13 near Gibraltar. But I know what you means, it must be terrible to cruise immerged in the mine... And not so easy as in the movie "Torpedo run" ! __________________ [http://simus-paradise.forumactif.com/silent-hunter-iii-f12/