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Old 03-04-07, 10:04 PM   #31
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May I ask.....if you don't want to pay $50, what price WOULD you pay?
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Old 03-05-07, 02:36 AM   #32
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I think $50.00 is more than fair. I was ready to pay twice that upon release. I agree with the general feel about this. You need a $2,000 - $5,000 system to run it, but 50 bucks is a problem?

Thats like the Lambourgini diablo owner with full insurance refusing to pay 3.00 a gallon for the gas to drive it... Nice to look at, but not much enjoyment.

Oh well.. give it 2 years and you will be able to get it for 9.95 in the bulk barrel. In the mean time you can always admire the SHIV wallpaper on your screen.

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Old 03-05-07, 02:49 AM   #33
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Isn't 50 USD the standard price for a game??? What the hell did people expect?
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Old 03-05-07, 06:31 AM   #34
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What the hell did people expect?
A functioning and complete game as it was described by the manufacturer. If that is supplied to me, I am pleasant to pay more than 50$ for it, but if not, then even 10$ are not worth for me. It cannot simply concern that today it is the task of the customers and modders to finish a game and make it playable it in such a way like it was the task of the manufacturer. If this is the trend, then I am no longer willing to support this with purchasing such a product.
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Old 03-05-07, 09:03 AM   #35
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What the hell did people expect?
A functioning and complete game as it was described by the manufacturer. If that is supplied to me, I am pleasant to pay more than 50$ for it, but if not, then even 10$ are not worth for me. It cannot simply concern that today it is the task of the customers and modders to finish a game and make it playable it in such a way like it was the task of the manufacturer. If this is the trend, then I am no longer willing to support this with purchasing such a product.
Of course it will be functional, they always are.

The biggest issue is complete. How complete? You mean error free? As far as PC gaming is concerned, that is something that doesn't happen. It is the nature of the beast.

Plus you got millions of people using computers that know relatively nothing about them and on top of that you have a wide variety of computers of which many can't handle the load that they want to use it for. And on top of that you have millions of computers that get screwed up every day by the people that use them.

OK, OK, but what about the rest of us? Well, I think there's still a ways to go b4 we get to a point in history where PC games are consistently troublefree. So for now, unless you want gaming companies to spend twice the amount of money and time to develop and charge us twice the normal amount to purchase games, then you're going to have to deal with what you got, more or less.
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Old 03-05-07, 12:20 PM   #36
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What the hell did people expect?
A functioning and complete game as it was described by the manufacturer. If that is supplied to me, I am pleasant to pay more than 50$ for it, but if not, then even 10$ are not worth for me. It cannot simply concern that today it is the task of the customers and modders to finish a game and make it playable it in such a way like it was the task of the manufacturer. If this is the trend, then I am no longer willing to support this with purchasing such a product.
This is a built-in infinite complaint department. Define "complete game". What's next? SH IV didn't come with a salt water sprayer and fan to mount by your PC so you can feel the wind and salt spray on your face when you're on deck? How about the smell of burnt cordite when the deck gun fires? The sim is really not "complete" without those things, is it? My point is this: it is physically impossible for a sim to completely and unstintingly simulate the pacific submarine war to everyone's complete satisfaction with today's technology. This isn't the 'holodeck' on Star Trek. It's a computer sim. It has limitations. Everything cannot/will not be included. That is where modders step in. Bravo for them. It is a labor of love for them, I think, a hobby, to add to these sims. At least it has been for me.


As has been pointed out, you are getting a lot of work, expertise, expense, etc... from Ubi to provide a sim such as SH IV for 50 bucks US, or thereabouts. We subsimmers are a very small niche market. If the Ubis of the world don't see some ability to turn a profit by producing sub sims, there just won't be any more sub sims. It's just that simple. 15 years from now, you'll be trying to find a computer you can still play SH IV on. Keep whining, don't support these companies, (which actually do listen to our ideas and constructive criticism) and see what the natural consequences are. (read: No more sub sims.) Just my $.02

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Old 03-05-07, 01:15 PM   #37
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$50.00 is the usual price and what I will pay. My kids will just have to eat peanut butter and jelly for week as a result
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Old 03-05-07, 01:48 PM   #38
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I just spent more than the cost of SHIVDE on a bottle of wine, to accompany the meal that cost over 3x the cost of SHIVDE, so I'm not gonna complain when I get my couple of years-worth of sub-foolery.

...and no, I'm not boasting about having that kind of money to spend on eating-out, at least not deliberately; it was my sister's birthday, so it was worth every penny.
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Old 03-05-07, 05:04 PM   #39
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It's the cheapest entertainment I have. I already have the expensive computer, so I might as well use it.

Going to a movie with the wife runs about $25 after drinks and popcorn. Taking her out to dinner first costs a whole lot more.

Staying at home playing sh4 will actually be saving me money.

Can I go to a movie with your wife, while you play SH4 of course ...

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You reminded me of the old Henny Youngman one liner.

Take my wife.............................................. .............. please!
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Old 03-05-07, 05:13 PM   #40
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Staying at home playing sh4 will actually be saving me money.
On the other hand, that whole course of action might cost you in some other areas...
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Old 03-05-07, 06:21 PM   #41
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best money spent is sooo true just wish i wasnt getting 340.00$ heat bills makes 50$ seem pretty important hmm family freeze and great sub action? --lol
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Old 03-05-07, 06:26 PM   #42
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:rotfl:

Seriously, if thats the case, get the game later. Nothing more important than family! (But you know that)
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Old 03-05-07, 06:26 PM   #43
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May I ask.....if you don't want to pay $50, what price WOULD you pay?

sh3 is 19$ now sh4 is worth more than 50 in my eyes if its anything like sh3 but winter rules are in effect of course when the wife gets her tax return :hmm:
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Old 03-05-07, 09:34 PM   #44
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i spent 200$

got the normal version and the SCE :rotfl:
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Old 03-05-07, 10:10 PM   #45
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I have been buying PC games for quite some time and I dont see what the big deal is. That is the typical starting price for a PC game on release. If you think it is too much, wait six months.:p
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