SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-14-13, 11:02 AM   #391
Onkel Neal
Born to Run Silent
 
Onkel Neal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1997
Location: Cougar Trap, Texas
Posts: 21,385
Downloads: 541
Uploads: 224


Default

I wonder, the world would erupt in protest at a nation practicing slavery or apartheid, but this is ignored. Think of the millions of NKs who have had their freaking minds rotted by this psychological poison.
__________________
SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web
Onkel Neal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 11:06 AM   #392
Oberon
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 25,976
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 20


Default

[QUOTE=Neal Stevens;2041207]I wonder, the world would erupt in protest at a nation practicing slavery or apartheid/QUOTE]

Depends on the nation, it took quite a few decades for Apartheid South Africa to collapse, and that was more through internal than external pressure.
Oberon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 11:30 AM   #393
TLAM Strike
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 8,633
Downloads: 29
Uploads: 6


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
Depends on the nation, it took quite a few decades for Apartheid South Africa to collapse, and that was more through internal than external pressure.
Yep really depends on the Nation.

1400 years of apartheid and still going strong.
__________________


TLAM Strike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 05:07 PM   #394
Onkel Neal
Born to Run Silent
 
Onkel Neal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1997
Location: Cougar Trap, Texas
Posts: 21,385
Downloads: 541
Uploads: 224


Default

NK nuclear weapons "a matter of time"

If something is being created by an enemy and all you do is talk about stopping it, it will be created. Same with Iran. Why don't the US Presidents just save their breath and stopped saying "a nuclear Iran/N Korea will not be tolerated". Yeah? Whatcha gonna do about it? Nothing.

Barbara Tuchman indeed! McCain making a lot of sense here.
__________________
SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web
Onkel Neal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 05:10 PM   #395
Cybermat47
Willing Webfooted Beast
 
Cybermat47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Australia
Posts: 5,408
Downloads: 300
Uploads: 23


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neal Stevens View Post
Why don't the US Presidents just save their breath and stopped saying "a nuclear Iran/N Korea will not be tolerated". Yeah? Whatcha gonna do about it? Nothing.
I won't tolerate that attitude Neal. Just give me a second...
__________________
Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620
Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394
Cybermat47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 05:13 PM   #396
Oberon
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 25,976
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 20


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neal Stevens View Post
Why don't the US Presidents just save their breath and stopped saying "a nuclear Iran/N Korea will not be tolerated". Yeah? Whatcha gonna do about it? Nothing.
Da, either you take an action to remove the nuclear weapons from the DPRK, or you accept the DPRK as a nuclear nation and take steps to contain it. Of course, accepting the DPRK is a nuclear nation is a difficult political move to make, because then the DPRK will demand the removal of sanctions and the ROK will demand its own nuclear arsenal to assure the balance of power. What they're doing at the moment is using a part of both options, they are taking steps to contain the DPRK as a nuclear nation, but they're not giving it any wiggle room by denying that they accept it as a nuclear nation. It's a bit of a compromise, but that's how it goes.

Now, we just have to wait until Kim makes his next move, to act before then would be exactly what he wants us to do.
Oberon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 05:17 PM   #397
Oberon
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 25,976
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 20


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybermat47 View Post
I won't tolerate that attitude Neal. Just give me a second...

ROUND ONE



VS



PLAYER ONE....FIGHT!
Oberon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 08:55 PM   #398
GT182
Ocean Warrior
 
GT182's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: New Castle of Delaware
Posts: 3,231
Downloads: 658
Uploads: 0
Default

Can't beat this one.....
__________________
Gary

No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country

I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

Last edited by GT182; 10-19-15 at 09:04 PM.
GT182 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 11:43 PM   #399
TLAM Strike
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 8,633
Downloads: 29
Uploads: 6


Default

Well it is April 15th, so tax day and Kim Il-sung's Birthday. So expect something to happen....
__________________


TLAM Strike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-13, 11:59 PM   #400
Reece
CINC Pacific Fleet
 
Reece's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Down Under
Posts: 34,792
Downloads: 171
Uploads: 0
Default

Kim tried to launch but his Windows 95 system got a virus!
__________________

Sub captains go down with their ship!
Reece is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-13, 04:50 AM   #401
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 190,914
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neal Stevens View Post
NK nuclear weapons "a matter of time"

If something is being created by an enemy and all you do is talk about stopping it, it will be created. Same with Iran. Why don't the US Presidents just save their breath and stopped saying "a nuclear Iran/N Korea will not be tolerated". Yeah? Whatcha gonna do about it? Nothing.

Barbara Tuchman indeed! McCain making a lot of sense here.
I believe they would have done something by now were it not for the fact NK is right next to the PRC.

I reckon if the PRC and US could strike up a deal or understanding the young leader wouldn't be in power very much longer but I suspect he knows this.

The PRC could be sleeping in both camps.
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!

Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-13, 05:56 AM   #402
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 42,712
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neal Stevens View Post
I wonder, the world would erupt in protest at a nation practicing slavery or apartheid, but this is ignored. Think of the millions of NKs who have had their freaking minds rotted by this psychological poison.
They are no Jewish state.

But we give him plenty of headlines over non-news on page one, every day. Kim has squeezed a pimple. Kim saw a leaf of grass. Kim has cut a hair in his nose. Kim felt an itching in his right ear. Kim said "Hm...". Kim looked at someone. Kim did this. Kim did that.

Some newspapers spread the propaganda stories by NK news office so willingly and euphorically that one could mistake them to be a part of that apparatus.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-13, 06:26 AM   #403
Feuer Frei!
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Valhalla
Posts: 5,295
Downloads: 141
Uploads: 17
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbuna View Post
I believe they would have done something by now
Only one possible outcome. Again.
The US will give NK free stuff.
Let's look at history for a minute:
1993: Clinton gives NK free food and oil, courtesy of the taxpayer. This is after NK launches a missile into the sea of Japan, defiant of international sanctions.
1998: NK launches...wait for it....another missile.
Congress attempts to to stop the food and oil, free of course, but, Clinton keeps the freebies coming.
2002: Bush in his infinite wisdom discovers that NK was making nukes the whole time. Bush acts and cuts out the freebies, ie. food and oil.
2006: NK tests its first nuke.
2007: Bush, flip-flops, and gives NK...you guessed it, freebies of food and oil.
2009: NK tests another nuke and launches missiles. The US stops the freebies again.
2012: Obama says we will give you food and oil if you stop the nuclear missile program.
But...before the freebies could be delivered...another missile is launched!

So, NK is very good at getting their freebies. For absolutely nothing in return. They have nukes, missiles, and they are doing it all over again. What comes around goes around.
NK has time and time again been rewarded. And for what?
More chest-beating, more sword-rattling, more posturing, more idle threats...to get the freebies again.
And if you say sanctions? They don't work.
Not with NK.
__________________
"History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon

LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS
Feuer Frei! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-13, 08:29 PM   #404
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,226
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

"Why I fled North Korea"

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/14/opinio...Top+Stories%29
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-13, 08:34 PM   #405
Reece
CINC Pacific Fleet
 
Reece's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Down Under
Posts: 34,792
Downloads: 171
Uploads: 0
Default

__________________

Sub captains go down with their ship!
Reece is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.