Bin Laden is dead, official

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Randomizer

I seem to recall the huge outcry from Western media (and some on these very forums) when Al Jazeera and others repeatedly published images of butchered Americans who were shot, their bodies burned and then hung from a bridge by Islamist insurgents.

I don't think the outrage was over the photos per se, but the fact that the Americans were butchered, mutilated and hung. It was the act, not the depiction of the act that got people riled up.

Originally Posted by Dowly

Indeed. Why the sudden change of story? That's what fuels the conspiracy nuts.

There was a UFO captured at Roswell.
No! It was a weather balloon.
What about the bodies?
Oh, those were only dummies.

How do you keep the population occupied?
Throw a heaping bunch of BS in a pot and let the Media stir it for awhile.

That takes attention away from REAL problems.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by privateer

There was a UFO captured at Roswell.
No! It was a weather balloon.
What about the bodies?
Oh, those were only dummies.

How do you keep the population occupied?
Throw a heaping bunch of BS in a pot and let the Media stir it for awhile.

That takes attention away from REAL problems.

You are quite right there, Sir.

I just don't understand it in this particular case. Osama wasn't the "snake's head", so why on earth keep the secrecy.

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On another note, it's amazing how many fake "osama dead photos" there are out there, I've counted 4 so far. And some of them are viruses, so don't open the stuff.
Oh, and one of them is a picture of a nightivision view of a US soldier kneelin over "headshot Osama", it's fake too.

Just to keep you awake, lots of viruses going around with "The Real Osama Dead Picture" etc. as title.

It'll leak sooner or later to one of the gore sites, I'm sure.

[tater]

I'm an anti-conspiracy person. I'm also not trying to make the Obama admin out to be idiots—but they are making it impossible not to.

Obama is not going to release images of Osama. Of course a few years ago he was all for releasing thousands more images of prisoner abuse from Abu Ghraib. The abuse happened, and there were prosecutions over it. Showing more after that would have no effect other than to stir up anti-americanism, and in fact humiliate the victims more (the principal complaint was that the victims were humiliated—it would be as if the reaction to a perp taking hidden camera pics of victims on the toilet was to publish more pictures...).

Just put the damn conspiracies out of our collective misery and release the pics—vid too. Just do it already.

[tater]

Krauthammer's spot-on take:

The only reason we took the risky operation was to present proof of death. It was not to give him a chance of surrender. Protecting him as a prisoner would have been a catastrophe. And it’s inconceivable that any administration would have offered it as an option.

Reaching for his gun — I’m not sure I buy it. They ought to release a picture. The Middle East is a place where conspiracies live. This summer there were shark attacks in the Red Sea. The Egyptian press blamed it on the Israelis.

You have to show a picture. That was the whole point of the operation: proof of death. Do it now and don’t dither.

[tater]

Indians (native americans) pretty POed about Bin Laden's code name, Geronimo.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...ers_blast.html

Remember all the flack Bush got for using the word "crusade?" Doubt this will have media legs as the president is not of the right party for them to care.

They should've used "tango" as a nod to South Park

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by tater

They should've used "tango" as a nod to South Park

Which in itself was a nod to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1 and 2 if im not mistaken.

[tater]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Which in itself was a nod to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1 and 2 if im not mistaken.

Got me, never played that

[Platapus]

Also the series Rainbow Six used that term.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I don't think the outrage was over the photos per se, but the fact that the Americans were butchered, mutilated and hung. It was the act, not the depiction of the act that got people riled up.

I recall that there was considerable anger over the publishing of the graphic still pictures and videos from this act that filled the airwaves but could be mistaken. So many horrific pictures and events out there, it's easy to have memories of different incidents merge and certainly possible that recollections of the event have been skewed.

Still believe however that trumpeting imagery of the death of bin Laden would be counter-productive and should be avoided. I have no problem with Americans gloating over his death but think that the country's long-term interests are best served doing so behind closed doors or at least without the need for "film at 11".

The reality probably would not live up to expectations anyway:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/osa...let-nat,20302/

[TorpX]

Codename for UBL: COCKROACH



On a more serious note, Obama needs to release pics or vids, otherwise it will be a whole Hitler isn't dead thing. The Islamists need to see his body, I don't care if it makes them mad or not. If they're enraged enough to jump out of their holes, it will be easier to kill them.

Also, they should have taken at least one prisoner for intel. The women should have been taken into custody too. Even if they are clueless, they could say how long UBL has been there, who the runners were, did they have visitors from Pak. gov't, where they were before, etc. These things would be worth knowing. They should have kept the news about the hard drives under wraps. I can't believe there were no weapons in the house; they might have been taken away. It sounds like UBL was very complacent, doesn't it?

I don't know if the article about Panetta is true or not, but alas, it sounds plausible. There will be some interesting books coming out about this in time.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by TorpX

Codename for UBL: COCKROACH

Even Milquetoast is appalled...

[tater]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-compound.html

There was no live video during the raid for 25 minutes once they entered the compound.

Jesus, jumping Christ. Seriously, WTF is the matter with these idiots. Part of me likes them looking stupid, domestically---8212;I want to make fun of Obama, but internationally? No. It's like making fun of your sister---8212;you can do it, but if some guy outside the family does, and you break his nose.

These morons are making all of us look like idiots.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by tater

Indians (native americans) pretty POed about Bin Laden's code name, Geronimo.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...ers_blast.html

Remember all the flack Bush got for using the word "crusade?" Doubt this will have media legs as the president is not of the right party for them to care.

They should've used "tango" as a nod to South Park

Who could blame them, a great american indian warrior. That was a bad mistake from a man that should know how to be sensitive to such issues.

We'll have no clue, except a bunch of misleading info. Osama could be under a mountain in a lab having his brain poked on. Hard to believe no active night vision cameras... We never get truth on these matters until years later. I think it shows they're going back and forth until they can figure out the correct policy. Be the same for any other admin, except if Bush had got lucky and got him he would've been dancing around a maypole with Osama's head screaming mission accomplished.

[razark]

Originally Posted by tater

Jesus, jumping Christ. Seriously, WTF is the matter with these idiots.

Two reactions:
A. Sometimes my internet cuts out, even when I'm not transmitting a radio signal across the world.
B. Maybe they're trying to avoid people asking for the video?

Mr Panetta also revealed that the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president.

That sentence reads a bit odd. Or did they give the Seals a choice?