FX Update torpedo splash back!

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

today i have tested the water splash in campaign till now works fine... later i will show u some print screen's ...

Looking forward to them

Originally Posted by gap

They are there: I have merged Rosomaha's RGB channel with my alpha channels

Originally Posted by volodya61

At that moment I didn't look at them yet ..

Gabriele, just tested SplashVert06 and I have to say - this was the best torpedo explosion I have ever seen during our tests .. I'm going to try to lighten this texture slightly and then I'll post some screens here..

PS:

Originally Posted by gap

P.S: we will restore sober's smoke screen, but using a dedicated particle generator and new "triggers" for it. I have already idea of how to do it

As I remember correctly, there was only change - velocity direction from y to x.. as I now a little familiar with HEX edit and don't need more any secret files for S3D (), I will try to change velocity direction this way:
x - 1
y - 1
z - 0
and then will look what happens in the game..

[Sjizzle]

as i sayd here are some pic. from test.








more pic u can finde here

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

At that moment I didn't look at them yet ..

I told you that yesterday you were a bit lazy

Originally Posted by volodya61

These are screens from XnView viewer.. though in the game the same..

I was looking at the your in-game screenshots, not at the preview of the textures

Originally Posted by volodya61

Gabriele, just tested SplashVert06 and I have to say - this was the best torpedo explosion I have ever seen during our tests .. I'm going to try to lighten this texture slightly and then I'll post some screens here..

Do you mean SlpashVertAdd_06?

Originally Posted by volodya61

As I remember correctly, there was only change - velocity direction from y to x.. as I now a little familiar with HEX edit and don't need more any secret files for S3D (), I will try to change velocity direction this way:
x - 1
y - 1
z - 0
and then will look what happens in the game..

yes, this:

x - 1
y - 1
z - 0

or, probably better, this:

x - 0
y - 1
z - 0

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

today i have tested the water splash in campaign till now works fine... later i will show u some print screen's ...

[Sjizzle]

Originally Posted by gap

i just posted some pic.

[gap]

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

i just posted some pic.

Wonderful screenies, they look so real!

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

as i sayd here are some pic. from test.

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

i just posted some pic.

It looks like a custom mission.. have you tested it in campaign mode?

Originally Posted by gap

I told you that yesterday you were a bit lazy

Arrrgghhh

Originally Posted by gap

I was looking at the your in-game screenshots, not at the preview of the textures

Don't know then..

Originally Posted by gap

Do you mean SlpashVertAdd_06?

No.. I mean what I said - SplashVert06.. from there -
EDIT: ooops.. mixed up again , of course, PierreE06..

Originally Posted by gap

This is not really a problem, here is a set of modified pierre_E textures, turned from vapour to smoke (i.e. from white-light grey to dark gray).
http://www.mediafire.com/?7trysbpza5tfucc

Originally Posted by gap

yes, this:
x - 1
y - 1
z - 0
or, probably better, this:
x - 0
y - 1
z - 0

I've already tried first variant.. without much changes..
The second one is a stock settings..
I'm trying now fractional variations.. because this is not just on/off or 00/01 trigger.. I can set there any values..
Right now in test -
x - 0.7
y - 0.3

[Sjizzle]

Originally Posted by volodya61

It looks like a custom mission.. have you tested it in campaign mode?

now i am looking for pic what i have made in campaign i have 40G pic on my HDD and i made a mistake didnt name it wich on was from capmaing and wich one from costum but in next 30 min i put some pic from campaing

[Sjizzle]

here we go from Danzing Bay







this mod work fine in campaign didnt had any problem ... i will make more test i will try to hunt a convoy to see there how it's work.

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

No.. I mean what I said - SplashVert06.. from there -
EDIT: ooops.. mixed up again , of course, PierreE06..

Originally Posted by volodya61

I've already tried first variant.. without much changes..
The second one is a stock settings..
I'm trying now fractional variations.. because this is not just on/off or 00/01 trigger.. I can set there any values..
Right now in test -
x - 0.7
y - 0.3

Finally I have realized why smoke was always moving toward ship's right side, no matter which side was struck by your torpedoes. X, Y and Z settings are vectors. Positive values mean that the particle is moving rightward, upward and frontward relative to its parent node/bone.

Believe me Volodya, there is no other way to set those smoke particles than retrieving stock settings. Any other setting would give slightly unrealistic results, if we want to represent smoke from explosions.

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

here we go from Danzing Bay

this mod work fine in campaign didnt had any problem ... i will make more test i will try to hunt a convoy to see there how it's work.

Good

please let us know if you notice any lag after hitting multiple targets at once

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

here we go from Danzing Bay

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

... i will make more test i will try to hunt a convoy to see there how it's work.

Yes, let us know if any freezes or lags will occurs near the large/huge convoy, as Gap said

Originally Posted by gap

Yes, exactly this one.. just lightened a bit.. -

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Originally Posted by gap

Finally I have realized why smoke was always moving toward ship's right side, no matter which side was struck by your torpedoes.

Okay, if so, what is this? -

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Originally Posted by gap

X, Y and Z settings are vectors. Positive values mean that the particle is moving rightward, upward and frontward relative to its parent node/bone.
Believe me Volodya, there is no other way to set those smoke particles than retrieving stock settings. Any other setting would give slightly unrealistic results, if we want to represent smoke from explosions.

x - 0.8, y - 0.2

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[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Yes, exactly this one.. just lightened a bit.. -

Can you please take another screenshot in broad daylight? I had to wear my IR equipment to see your previous screenies

Originally Posted by volodya61

Okay, if so, what is this? -

I don't know for sure, but probably those smokes are linked to bones with opposite rotation settings. On the other hand, why should smoke move in two opposite directions? The one thing that could make smoke to move laterally is wind, and wind should blow in one direction.

Originally Posted by volodya61

x - 0.8, y - 0.2

What is wrong about a beautiful column of smoke rising vertically from an explosion? If you want, we can make it to be wind-affected, but smoke coming out with an orizontal motion, this is something I don't get

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Can you please take another screenshot in broad daylight? I had to wear my IR equipment to see your previous screenies

No .. it's a special weather to easier to see a white column ..
Wait.. in a few..

Originally Posted by gap

I don't know for sure, but probably those smokes are linked to bones with opposite rotation settings. On the other hand, why should smoke move in two opposite directions? The one thing that could make smoke to move laterally is wind, and wind should blow in one direction.

I too.. don't know.. why..

Originally Posted by gap

What is wrong about a beautiful column of smoke rising vertically from an explosion? If you want, we can make it to be affected by wind, but smoke coming out with an orizontal motion, this is something I don't get

As you can see, on my screens the smoke come out neither vertically, nor horizontally..
GlobalWindCoef and WindCoef are enabled in each entry in the BitmapParticles..

EDIT: water drops didn't tested yet.. I need/should to increase their size in HEX to see these new drops ..

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

No .. it's a special weather to easier to see a white column ..

Yes, but not as good for seeing greyer smoke

Originally Posted by volodya61

As you can see, on my screens the smoke come out neither vertically, nor horizontally..

yep, on the slant. Yet, when there is low or no wind, smoke from ship explosions should look more like this, imo:


Sinking of the Italian destroyer Vincenzo Gioberti by British submarine (1941)


Explosion of a Japanese bunker full of torpedo warheads during the battle of Roi Namur (1944)



Note the mushroom shaped, nearly vertical, smoke column, and the mixture of darker and brighter smoke

Originally Posted by volodya61

GlobalWindCoef and WindCoef are enabled in each entry in the BitmapParticles..

Okay, if you want I can design a custom mission for you to test the effect of different wind speeds on smoke motion. Again, in my opinion smoke should look like in your last screenshots, only when there's wind, and it should follow wind direction, indeed

Originally Posted by volodya61

EDIT: water drops didn't tested yet.. I need/should to increase their size in HEX to see these new drops ..

are they too much transparent now? Please post a screenshot as soon as you test them, I am very interested in this transparency issue

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Yes, but not as good for seeing greyer smoke

It's not exactly grayer..

Originally Posted by gap

Okay, if you want I can design a custom mission for you to test the effect of different wind speeds on smoke motion. Again, in my opinion smoke should look like in your last screenshots, only when there's wind, and it should follow wind direction, indeed

I can change the wind speed or direction in any my mission.. I'll test this later..

Originally Posted by gap

are they too much transparent now? Please post a screenshot as soon as you test them, I am very interested in this transparency issue

Honestly, I didn't saw water drops at all on the background of other effects.. I'll take file with WaterDrops effect only and 'll test it..

[Sjizzle]

new reports about the torpedo splash on small convoy no fps and no lag problems ( in campaign ) didnt found till now a larg convoy with 20+ 30+ ships

now i keep looking for larg convoy