attn: RULLE34, MANUEL ORTEGA, SEEADLER, JUNGMAN, & MARHK - Page 2

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ENtek-IO

I think all reflection fixes for the subs and corrections to the uboot models like the type VIIc wiring should be in, making this mod to a error fix patch, simply musthaves which dont alter the original game but remove flaws.

This would be a good idea EXCEPT that many people do not use the stock skins that are included with Sergbuto's sub reflection fixes and Flakwalker's cable fixes.

Those are also independant mods that do not share files with the Sky Colors .dat files or the scene .dat and sensor .dat files.

The water/sun reflection and U-boat reflections are SEPARATE from the ATMOSPHERIC MOD and will have no conflicts when used together. The same is true for the Cable Fix mod by Flakwalker.

If we make the ATMOSPHERIC mod too detailed it can create many problems down the road.

I love the idea of a mod that fixes everything, but it isn't practical because so many use such different modifications in their game.

We have to stay focused on the idea that this is an ATMOSPHERIC MOD so ALL can use it.

Man o man, I can't wait to hear from SeeAdler, Rulle34, Jungman, and Ortega.

gdogghenrikson · 10-25-05, 07:36 PM

I agree with Lehmann

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 07:38 PM

Well put, Kpt. Lehmann

Just putting together all of the atmospheric mods is trouble enough. I can't possibly immagine how much incompatability issues we would have if we made a FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod...

OT, but that's a really cool name by the way... FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod. We'll have to save that one for a rainy day.

gdogghenrikson · 10-25-05, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

Well put, Kpt. Lehmann

Just putting together all of the atmospheric mods is trouble enough. I can't possibly immagine how much incompatability issues we would have if we made a FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod...

:rotfl:

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 07:41 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: That would be one HUGE @&^@#&!*#'n mod!!!

ENtek-IO · 10-25-05, 08:01 PM

hmm, it hought it would be practical to have atleast those two basics in one mod...+ the cloud distortion fix , and you are right i forgot those who use other skins then the stock ones.
I personaly think a new texture doesnt automaticaly translate to, better or estheticaly more pleasing.
It also would generate a new standard, additional skins are just that, and their authors should implement the reflection fixes,but the standard is stock,of course.
In the long run i highly doubt we can evade the fact that lots of mods do just that, they fix bugs ,and they should be treated like that..
So if people work on one file,they should in the communitys sake merge their work. Individual Mod claiming is just ego pleasing,and a inadequate approach if it comes to the "basics" imho.

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENtek-IO

hmm, it hought it would be practical to have atleast those two basics in one mod...+ the cloud distortion fix , and you are right i forgot those who use other skins then the stock ones.
I personaly dont think a new texture doesnt automaticaly translate to, better or estheticaly more pleasing.
It also would generate a new standard, additional skins are just that, and their authors should implement the reflection fixes,but the standard is stock,of course.
In the long run i highly doubt we can evade the fact that lots of mods do just that, they fix bugs ,and they should be treated like that..
So i people work on one file,they should in the communitys sake merge their work. Individual Mod claiming is just ego pleasing,and a inadequate approach if it comes to the "basics" imho.

Have no worries, eventually all the most popular skins and mods will be converted to match the files in the ATMOSPHERIC MOD after the dust settles!

Everyone will be able to have their cake and eat it too... All that is needed is a little time.

Just think of where we will be a month from now!

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 09:55 PM

An order of action is necessary...

TOP PRIORITY - we need Rulle34 and Manuel Ortega to merge their visibility mods into one. We really shouldn't have seperate visibility mods... make a final decision on 16 or 18km. One or the other, not both...

Also, Jungman's sensor settings will have to match with your guy's decision. We will also have to integrate all of that with Seeadler's cloud fix (scene.dat).

These will be the affected files
Scene.dat
SkyColors_Arct.dat
SkyColors_Atl.dat
SkyColors_Med.dat
Sensors.cfg
Sensors.dat

Once we do all of that, we will have solved all of the complicated stuff. Next, we'll only have to add the sky/sea/moon/cloud textures.

Sound like a good plan?

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-25-05, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marhkimov

An order of action is necessary...

TOP PRIORITY - we need Rulle34 and Manuel Ortega to merge their visibility mods into one. We really shouldn't have seperate visibility mods... make a final decision on 16 or 18km. One or the other, not both...

Also, Jungman's sensor settings will have to match with your guy's decision. We will also have to integrate all of that with Seeadler's cloud fix (scene.dat).

These will be the affected files
Scene.dat
SkyColors_Arct.dat
SkyColors_Atl.dat
SkyColors_Med.dat
Sensors.cfg
Sensors.dat

Once we do all of that, we will have solved all of the complicated stuff. Next, we'll only have to add the sky/sea/moon/cloud textures.

Sound like a good plan?

POSITIVELY!!! now all we have to do is wait for those guys to wake up.... Coffee Marhkimov? :|\

BTW my vote is for the 16 km visibility mod... It seems to be the most widely tested and used.

Fangschuss · 10-25-05, 10:14 PM

This Community Rocks

Cant wait for this total Fix

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 10:23 PM

Same here, 16km...

I seem to run into too many ships as it is... Of course, many of you will just consider me to be lucky...

Hackett · 10-25-05, 10:52 PM

Votes for 16km visibility...

JBClark · 10-25-05, 11:05 PM

You guys are the tits.

Marhkimov · 10-25-05, 11:11 PM

Yay... We're the tits!!!

umm... is that a good thing?

10-25-05, 11:26 PM

Sounds great! Uh...Sounds...Sounds? Whats about Sounds? The standard Sounds in Sh3 are...mh..."not so good" i could make a new one!

i guess sounds are important for an athmo-mod :|\

EDIT: Tits? :hmm:

10-25-05, 07:36 PM	#17
gdogghenrikson Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 978 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I agree with Lehmann __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

10-25-05, 07:38 PM	#18
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well put, Kpt. Lehmann Just putting together all of the atmospheric mods is trouble enough. I can't possibly immagine how much incompatability issues we would have if we made a FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod... OT, but that's a really cool name by the way... FIX UBI'S DUMB MISTAKES mod. We'll have to save that one for a rainy day. __________________ It takes two to tango

10-25-05, 07:41 PM	#20
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: That would be one HUGE @&^@#&!*#'n mod!!! __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

10-25-05, 09:55 PM	#23
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	An order of action is necessary... TOP PRIORITY - we need Rulle34 and Manuel Ortega to merge their visibility mods into one. We really shouldn't have seperate visibility mods... make a final decision on 16 or 18km. One or the other, not both... Also, Jungman's sensor settings will have to match with your guy's decision. We will also have to integrate all of that with Seeadler's cloud fix (scene.dat). These will be the affected files Scene.dat SkyColors_Arct.dat SkyColors_Atl.dat SkyColors_Med.dat Sensors.cfg Sensors.dat Once we do all of that, we will have solved all of the complicated stuff. Next, we'll only have to add the sky/sea/moon/cloud textures. Sound like a good plan? __________________ It takes two to tango

10-25-05, 10:14 PM	#25
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	This Community Rocks Cant wait for this total Fix __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

10-25-05, 08:01 PM	#21
ENtek-IO Bosun Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 62 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	hmm, it hought it would be practical to have atleast those two basics in one mod...+ the cloud distortion fix , and you are right i forgot those who use other skins then the stock ones. I personaly think a new texture doesnt automaticaly translate to, better or estheticaly more pleasing. It also would generate a new standard, additional skins are just that, and their authors should implement the reflection fixes,but the standard is stock,of course. In the long run i highly doubt we can evade the fact that lots of mods do just that, they fix bugs ,and they should be treated like that.. So if people work on one file,they should in the communitys sake merge their work. Individual Mod claiming is just ego pleasing,and a inadequate approach if it comes to the "basics" imho.

10-25-05, 10:23 PM	#26
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same here, 16km... I seem to run into too many ships as it is... Of course, many of you will just consider me to be lucky... __________________ It takes two to tango

10-25-05, 10:52 PM	#27
Hackett Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 60 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Votes for 16km visibility...

10-25-05, 11:05 PM	#28
JBClark Medic Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 159 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	You guys are the tits.

10-25-05, 11:11 PM	#29
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yay... We're the tits!!! umm... is that a good thing? __________________ It takes two to tango

10-25-05, 11:26 PM	#30
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Sounds great! Uh...Sounds...Sounds? Whats about Sounds? The standard Sounds in Sh3 are...mh..."not so good" i could make a new one! i guess sounds are important for an athmo-mod :\|\ EDIT: Tits? :hmm: